From the Department of 'No' to a Seat at the Table: Mastering the Art of CISO Leadership

CISO Ian Schneller joins host Shawn Tuma to share how CISOs evolve into true business partners by aligning security with enterprise goals and collaborating closely with GCs and legal on AI governance, risk, and board communications. Hear practical guidance on moving from “defend” to “enable secure growth,” framing board updates from a position of strength, measuring effectiveness vs. risk, and using a decide-and-act mindset to drive outcomes. Perfect for CISOs, GCs, and security leaders who want to speak the language of the business and lead together.

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In this episode of The GC+CISO Connection Show, host Shawn Tuma sits down with Janie Aggas, Global Business Information Security Officer (BISO) at CBRE, to explore the critical role of collaboration between legal, cybersecurity, and business teams. Janie shares her unique career journey, from real estate law to cybersecurity leadership, and how her role as a BISO bridges the gap between business strategy and cybersecurity priorities.

Janie discusses the importance of building strong relationships between legal and cyber teams, the evolving role of BISOs in aligning cybersecurity with business goals, and how her recent Master’s in Cybersecurity Law and Public Policy from Texas A&M has shaped her approach to leadership. She also provides actionable tips for fostering collaboration, preparing for board presentations, and navigating the complexities of emerging technologies like AI and NFTs.

Whether you're a CISO, BISO, GC, or legal professional, this episode is packed with valuable insights on how to build stronger partnerships and drive organizational success.

In this episode of The GC+CISO Connection Show, host Shawn Tuma sits down with Carly Duvall Le Riche, General Counsel for Cariloop, to discuss the critical intersection of legal and cybersecurity in today’s business landscape. With experience spanning technology, privacy, and risk management, Carly shares her unique perspective on how legal and cyber teams can work together to manage risk effectively, build resilience, and support organizational goals.
Carly dives into her role leading legal, compliance, and information security at a lean technology company, offering insights on how to foster collaboration, communicate effectively with boards, and advocate for cybersecurity within an organization. She also provides practical advice for legal professionals looking to better understand cybersecurity and for security professionals seeking to build strong relationships with their legal counterparts.
Whether you're a CISO, CLO, GC, or security professional, this episode offers valuable insights into the evolving partnership between legal and cyber.
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