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Hey, Wayward Friends. This episode (as well as Part 2) references an interview conducted at a fan-run convention panel 5 years ago. During the course of our research for this episode, we discovered that the moderator for that panel, Ada, recently passed away. We wanted to take this moment to send love to all that knew Ada and express gratitude to Ada herself for this iconic panel and all she gave to fandom.

Chrisha and Catherine continue their exploration of the 5th anniversary of the "I love you" heard around the world by delving into the much-celebrated Spanish Dub of "Despair." To help them better understand the context in which "Y yo a ti, Cas," happened, they bring on Catherine's friend, Elis. Elis hails from Brazil, where they also have a thriving dubbing industry (in Portuguese, of course!). She shares the cultural context of dubbing in non-English speaking countries―as well as a good portion of her fangirl knowledge about the dubbing process!

The three also delve into the history of the moment into which the Spanish Dub was released and the context of the interview with the voice actor, Guillermo Rojas (aka Memo), who spoke the unforgettable line.

Part 2 of this episode will look at the interview itself.

Credits:

• Audio of Misha Collins at DarkLight Con 2020: @HasnaaAlaa on Youtube
• Audio of the Latin American Spanish dub of "The Truth": @heartsmish on X
• Audio of Misha Collins discussing the "rogue translator": @mishacollins on X
• HarleyCon Interview with Guillermo Rojas, Dean Winchester's Latin American voice actor: @egoismht on YouTube

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Chrisha and Catherine are BACK to celebrate the 5th anniversary of the "I love you" heard around the world in Supernatural's episode "Despair."

They begin with an update on how they are both doing (spoiler alert: shipwreck documentaries and true crime are major pasttimes at the moment) and their take on the current status of fandom in general.

They then move on to the events from Purgatory Con 9, which took place in Dusseldorf, Germany, from May 31st-June 1st, 2025. They focus in particularly on Jensen talking about the meaning of "Watching Over Me" and his approbation as he listened to Misha discuss "Despair"'s homosexual declaration of love.

As part of this discussion, they contrast their past worry about getting things wrong in their analysis with their current, more relaxed feeling about approaching Supernatural-related material, even without the confirmation of figures like Ackles.

Their conclusion: If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it's a f***ing duck, y'all. And that's how they're going to approach everything from now on.

Note: The question Jensen answered about "Watching Over Me" was from @blanketforcas.bsky.social, who kindly provided us with a transcript of what she asked here after this episode went live! Thanks, Tess!

Credits:

• PurCon 9 Audio of Jensen talking about "Watching Over Me": meat+salt on X
• Article "'Supernatural' Fans are Losing It Over Jensen Ackles' Latest Confession": Lauren Gordon for Parade
• "I wrote 'Watching Over Me' for us" Destiel News Meme: dclovesdestiel on Tiktok
• Purcon 9 Text of Misha's answer to the query of what would have happened if Castiel arrived on S1: Drula aka CasIsLoved on X (via castiels-influence on tumblr)
• PurCon 9 Audio of Jensen and Misha's introduction on stage: MishsMaroon on X
• PurCon gif set of Misha talking about how "Despair" happened: purewasteland on tumblr

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Join Chrisha and Catherine for a chaotic episode where all of the things that can happen in the background at Catherine's apartment do while they try to talk all about the music in the finale of The Winchesters.

Topics range from just how exactly Dean did time- and universe-travel, to his kidnapping of the President of the United States, his introspection and shift from an active fighter to a guide, the City of Angels and the City of Love, and lots of Destiel musings.

The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CW
Supernatural audio clip credits: The WB; The CW
Music clip credits: "Take a Stand" by Homer Greencastle; "Keep On Ramblin'" by Radio Company; "Baba O'Riley" by The Who; "LA Woman" by The Doors; "Americana" by Jay Gruska; "One of These Things First" by Nick Drake; "Watching Over Me" by Radio Company; "Ramble On" by Led Zeppelin; "That's No Way To Say Goodbye" by Leonard Cohen
Radio Company live concert credit: "Let Me Be" on Hannah Young's Youtube channel
Info about how the Ackles got "Ramble On": hermscat on Tumblr and Sharon87 on Twitter (Thanks, Tess, for the info and links! Wayward Friends, turns out Jensen went without salary for The Winchesters' finale so they could pay for the song--and a lot of work went on behind the scenes to get permission to use it!)

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