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What if “All shall be well” isn’t escapism but a summons to live braver, kinder, and more open to mystery? We sit with Julian of Norwich’s beloved quote and ask what makes hope durable when the world feels unwell—plague, patriarchy, and the daily grind of uncertainty included. Instead of chasing certainty, we explore the freedom of unknowing, the grounding force of ritual, and the quiet courage that comes from trusting love over fear.

We take a hard look at how easy answers become avoidance, and we chart a different path: hope that looks pain in the eye and stays. From reframing death as passage to examining why judgment rarely produces justice, we talk about practices that rewire our attention—breath, blessing, bread, and honest questions like Who told me this? and Where is the holy? Along the way, we name the pull toward compassion and the call to act: advocating for the unhoused and immigrant, rejecting the myth of separateness, and returning to the good over and over until it remakes us.

Advent threads it all together as a living metaphor: lighting small candles in thick dark, consenting to carry love into the world as Mary did, again and again. If love is the truest thing, then “all shall be well” becomes a commitment, not a cliché—a way of imagining equity, choosing solidarity, and embodying mercy when it matters most. Listen, share with a friend, and tell us: what’s one small act you’ll take this week to make things well for someone near you? Subscribe for more conversations on mysticism, courage, and the everyday work of hope.

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What if reading the Bible felt less like swallowing a prepackaged meal and more like cooking something nourishing with friends? We sit down with Dr. Jennifer Garcia Bashaw to reframe biblical interpretation through a simple, memorable kitchen metaphor that helps anyone move from fear and formulas to curiosity and depth. Instead of treating Scripture as a static rule book, we explore it as a living, multivocal library—divine and human—where honest questions don’t break faith, they build it.

We start with you the reader: how your social location, church background, and assumptions shape what you see. From there we unpack genre—poetry, wisdom, ancient history, gospels—and why recognizing these forms changes everything about how you read. Jennifer shares accessible tools like the Bible Project’s book overviews to anchor any passage in its literary and historical context, and she offers a healing on-ramp for those wounded by weaponized verses: return to Jesus. Using Jesus as the interpretive lens reframes violent depictions of God and invites a way of reading that matches the character of Christ.

Along the way, we revisit overlooked stories of women in Scripture, trace Israel’s long path toward monotheism, and practice a two-step that keeps us grounded: first ask what a passage meant to them, then consider what it can mean for us. The result is a richer, kinder approach to the Bible that welcomes complexity, values diverse voices, and makes space for growth. If you’re hungry for Scripture that feeds your mind and heals your heart, pull up a chair and join us.

Dr. Jennifer Garcia Bashaw's newest book can be preordered on the link below.

https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/product/9798889835561/Serving-Up-Scripture

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A single billboard question haunted our childhoods and still shapes modern faith: Where will you spend eternity? We decided to take it apart—gently, honestly, and without losing the heart of the gospel. Together we trace how fear-based scripts formed our earliest images of God and how those scripts often create otherness, separation, and shame. Then we pivot to presence, asking what happens when we trade anxiety about the afterlife for the daring work of love, justice, and neighborliness here and now.

We revisit a familiar passage—“I go to prepare a place for you”—and explore a richer reading that centers God’s vast roominess rather than a gated heaven. This reframing loosens the grip of spiritual escapism and calls us back to the practices Jesus actually modeled: healing, freeing, welcoming, and making space at the table. We talk about empire thinking and why some religious messaging can function as social control, encouraging quiet compliance instead of courageous compassion. Through it all, we keep returning to the nearness of God, not as a concept in the clouds but as a living presence in our ordinary lives.

Our aim isn’t to win an argument; it’s to change the question. Instead of “Where will you spend eternity?” we ask, “How can I be a better neighbor to you?” Drawing on contemplative wisdom and Thomas Keating’s invitation to a new language of prayer, we name the kingdom as a present reality felt in influence, community, and daily choices. Love birthed us, love sustains us, and love will receive us. The task is to align with that love now—through equity, mercy, and attentive presence—trusting the Spirit to lead.

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