In Volume Six: Chapter Nine, we welcome Dr. Irène Mathieu — a Washington, D.C.–born, Virginia-based pediatrician, educator, researcher, and award-winning poet. She earned her BA in International Relations from the College of William & Mary, her MD from Vanderbilt University, and a Master’s in Public Health from Johns Hopkins. Today she serves as Associate Professor of Pediatrics at the University of Virginia, where she also helps lead programs in Health Humanities, and sits on the board of Virginia Clinicians for Climate Action.

Dr. Mathieu is the author of four books of poetry — The Galaxy of Origins, Orogeny (winner of the Bob Kaufman Book Prize), Grand Marronage (Editor’s Choice for the Gatewood Prize and runner-up for the Cave Canem/Northwestern Book Prize), and her most recent, Milk Tongue (2023). Her work has earned Pushcart Prize nominations, national contest honors, and features in outlets including The Washington Post, NPR, The Los Angeles Times, and more.

Contact Irène:
Website: irenemathieu.com

Recorded Spoken Word Performances Featured Include:

Alyesha Wise – Trauma
Instagram: @alyeshawise Website: alyeshawise.com

Joseph Capehart – Bad Habits
Instagram: @oksolaris

Javon Johnson – Black and Happy
Instagram: @javonism

Denice Frohman – Accents
Instagram: @denicefrohman Website: denicefrohman.com

Jay Ward – Gentrification
Instagram: @jward2030 Website: jwardpoetry.com

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In Volume Six: Chapter Eight of The Program, we sit down with Shreveport-born Writer, Poet, Essayist, and Author Destiny Birdsong,

In our conversation, we trace Destiny’s creative journey from her childhood love of storytelling to the spark that ignited her lifelong devotion to poetry. We talk about how her early awareness of difference shaped her imagination, and how writing became a way to transform both beauty and pain into art.

Destiny reflects on her university years, when writing full-time felt impractical, and how she eventually committed fully to the literary path. We explore the influence of Cave Canem, a transformative community for Black poets, and the pivotal advice from writer Chris Abani that pushed her toward a deeper honesty in her work—an honesty that shaped her acclaimed poetry collection Negotiations. She opens up about the vulnerability of writing for others versus writing for herself, and the revelations that came with seeing her first book in print a decade after completing her MFA.

We also dig into her award-winning debut novel Nobody’s Magic, a powerful triptych that follows the lives of three Black women with albinism in Shreveport, Louisiana. Destiny shares insights into character building, the emotional complexities of writing characters she loved—and even some she initially hated—and why she chose to tell three distinct but interconnected stories.

This is a thoughtful, vulnerable, and inspiring conversation with a Creative which I really enjoyed.

Contact Destiny:
Instagram: @bird_songoftheyear
Website: destinybirdsong.com

Recorded Spoken Word Performances Featured Include:

Ephraim Nehemiah – Inheritance of a Broken Home
Instagram: @ephraimnehemiah Website: ephraimnehemiah.com

Porsha O. – Trigger
Instagram: @porshaolayiwola Website: porshaolayiwola.com

William Evans – For My Wife Who Fell In Love With a Ship Buried at Sea
Instagram: @williamevanswrites Website: williamthe3rd.com

Destiny Birdsong – Killing White (working title)
Destiny Birdsong – Mythicana

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In Volume Six: Chapter Seven, we are joined by Vancouver-born poet, writer, educator, and editor Gregory Betts. A professor of English at Brock University and Literary Arts Residency Lead at the SETI Institute, Greg has authored or edited more than 25 books, including his most recent collaboration Muttertongue: What is Word In Utter Space, co-written with Lillian Allen and Gary Barwin.

In our conversation, we trace Greg’s creative journey—from his earliest poems being published without his knowledge, to discovering the power of poetry in community through a George Bowering book and an Al Purdy reading that changed how he saw writing. We talk about his commitment to literary communities, his take on experimental versus avant-garde writing, and why he believes the difference between the two matters.

Contact Gregory::
Website: gregorybetts.wordpress.com
Purchase Muttertongue: here

Recorded Spoken Word Performances Featured Include:

Ebony Stewart – Mental Health Barz
Instagram: @gulleyprincess Website: ebpoetry.com

Jus Marvin – My Depression
Instagram: @jusmarvinpoetry

Natasha Miller – The Difference Between a Girlfriend and a Woman
Instagram: @natashatmiller

Elizabeth Acevedo – Afro Latina
Instagram: @acevedowrites Website: acevedowrites.com

Asia Samson – As I Am
Instagram: @theasiaproject Website: theasiaproject.com

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