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The Ethically Immoral Podcast is a program dedicated to long-form conversations with poets, spoken word artists, authors, and creatives who use language as a tool for truth-telling, healing, and resistance. Hosted by Mike Payne, the show travels beyond the typical interview to explore the personal histories, artistic philosophies, and cultural contexts that shape the voice of the Creatives we welcome.


It’s not just about poetry or performance — it’s about the people behind the pen. We talk about identity, healing, joy, frustration, and the journey of becoming. Some moments are deep, others are funny, but all of them are authentic. If you’re someone who values storytelling, vulnerability, and good conversation, this space was created and cultivated for you.

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  • Volume Six: Chapter Four - Our Conversation with Natasha Ria El-Scari
    Jul 28 2025

    In Volume Six: Chapter Four of the podcast, we welcome Poet, Spoken Word Artist, and Author Natasha Ria.

    Natasha Ria has been writing and performing poetry for three decades. Whether it is performing with live musicians in Jazz, R&B, or Hip Hop or sharing her quieter literary work, her signature voice soothes audiences and brings them closer to themselves. Personal, political, intersectional, Natasha Ria brings her entire self to her performances.

    Contact Natasha:
    Instagram:
    @natasharia
    Website: natasharia.com

    Recorded Spoken Word Performances Featured Include:

    Anita D – And the Psych Ward Says
    Instagram: @anitadpoetry

    Jae Nichelle – Friends With Benefits
    Instagram: @croptopassassian Website:jaenichelle.com

    Rudy Francisco – Scars To The New Boyfriend
    Instagram: @rudyfrancisco Website: rudyfrancisco.com

    Natasha Ria – Shine
    Natasha Ria The Secret Society of Black Mothers

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    1 h y 43 m
  • Volume Six: Chapter Three - Our Conversation with Alyssa Michelle
    Jul 13 2025

    In Volume Six: Chapter Three of the podcast, we welcome Poet, Spoken Word Artist, and Author Alyssa Michelle for her third appearance on the program. Alyssa, based in Albany, New York, is a mother, motivational speaker, and creative writing consultant who has authored three poetry collections: Growing Pains, The Awakening, and Blooming Season.

    In our conversation, we ease in with her road trip R&B playlist, then dive into a discussion about introversion, energy, growth, and the personal work behind Alyssa’s creative evolution.

    We revisit her start as a young writer who turned to poetry for safe expression and trace how her writing has shifted from chronicling trauma to embodying confidence, healing, and self-empowerment. She opens up about the importance of honoring her past without staying bound to it — particularly in her performance work, where she now feels called to reflect joy, strength, and renewal on stage.

    We also discuss her latest book, Blooming Season, a personal collection of 22 poems that represents, essentially, both a closing of one chapter and the quiet beginning of another. Plus, Alyssa shares her experience participating in the LA Times Festival of Books and offers insight into her new role as a creative writing consultant, supporting writers across a wide range of genres.

    Alyssa brings honesty, warmth, and a quiet wisdom that makes this conversation both comforting and energizing, and is why she is one of our favorite guests to converse with.

    Contact Alyssa:
    Instagram:
    @poetress_alyssa
    TikTok: @poetress_alyssa

    Recorded Spoken Word Performances Featured Include:

    Maya Mayor – Perfect
    Instegram: @mayamayor

    Lyrical Faith – Lay My Edges
    Instagram: @lyricalfaithpoetry Website: lyricalfaithpoetry Our Conversations with Lyrical Faith: First and Second

    Shawn William – Tired
    Instagram: @iamshawnwilliam

    Alyssa Michelle – Solitude Thoughts
    Alyssa Michelle Mis-Education of the Introvert


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    2 h y 7 m
  • Volume Six: Chapter Two - Our Conversation with Dr. Theri Pickens
    Jul 7 2025

    This week on the program, we welcomed Poet, Scholar, Educator, and Author of the poetry collection "What Had Happened Was" - Dr. Therí Pickens . Dr. Pickens is a Professor of English at Bates College, where she teaches courses in African American and Arab American literature, disability studies, philosophy, and literary theory. In our conversation, we explore the intersections of Blackness, disability, poetry, and presence — and how she weaves these into both her creative and academic work.

    We begin with a fun round of word association that touches on everything from “Mad Blackness” to ‘90s R&B and Uno (yes, the card game), before diving into her creative history — from being the “young nerd” with a backpack full of books to her early dreams of publishing poetry.

    Dr. Pickens shares how she began seriously honing her craft as a poet in 2017, using poetic forms to guide and discipline her creativity. We discuss how her scholarly work in disability studies, particularly Black Disability Studies, informs her poetry — and how she challenges dominant frameworks like “mutual constitution” in understanding Blackness and disability. She offers insightful distinctions between impairment and disability, and how structural barriers—not bodies—create inaccessibility.

    Contact Dr. Pickens:
    Instagram:
    @tapphd2010
    Website: tpickens.org

    Recorded Spoken Word Performances Featured Include:

    Ariana Brown – Supremacy
    Instagram: @arianapbrown Website: arianabrown.com

    Yaw – Ancestral Ghosts
    Instagram: @kingyaw_

    Dasan Ahanu – Conversation With God
    Instagram: @dasanahanu Website: dasanahanu.com

    Ayanna Florence – Boy Calls Me Pretty
    Instagram: @poetnextdoor

    Ifrah Hussein – Tell Us
    Instagram: @ifrahhussein

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    2 h y 10 m
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