Join Dave Farley in conversation with Daniel Terhorst-North, the creator of Behavior-Driven Development (BDD) and pioneering voice in agile software development. In this wide-ranging discussion,

Dan shares insights from his time at ThoughtWorks, where he helped establish many practices now considered standard in modern software engineering.

Whether you're interested in improving your development practices, leading organizational change, or understanding the historical evolution of agile methodologies, this conversation offers valuable perspectives from one of the field's most influential practitioners.

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Dan Terhorst-North's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tastapod/?originalSubdomain=uk

Dan Terhorst-North's Website: https://goalwards.co/

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In this episode, Dave Farley explores how SpareBank One transformed their software development approach with Ola Hast (Developer) and Asgaut Mjølne Söderbom (Senior Developer). Working at Norway's second-largest banking alliance serving 1.2 million users, they reveal how pair programming became absolutely essential to achieving true continuous delivery.

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The Engineering Room is sponsored by Equal Experts.

Equal Experts is a product software development consultancy with a network of over 1,000 experienced technology consultants globally. They increase the pace of innovation by using modern software engineering practices that embrace Continuous Delivery, Security, and Operability from the outset ➡️ https://bit.ly/3ASy8n0

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Supporting Links: Ola & Asgaut's QCon talk "Continuous Delivery Is Not Possible without Pair Programming": https://www.infoq.com/presentations/cd-pair-programming/ SINTEF

Research into Pair Programming in the Bank: https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.19511

In this conversation, Dave Farley explores the innovative Army Software Factory with Matt Flautt (CTO) and Jeff Day (Chief of Platform). They reveal how the U.S. Army is building an internal software development capability by training soldiers—many without prior coding experience—to become proficient developers through rigorous training and pair programming practices.

This episode will be of interest to anyone with knowledge in building technical capability within large organisations, transforming non-technical talent into developers, or implementing DevOps practices in regulated environments. Their pragmatic approach to continuous improvement shows how even organisations with strict governance can adopt modern software practices.

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Army Software Factory Website: https://soldiersolutions.swf.army.mil/

Matt Flautt (CTO) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattflautt

Jeff Day (Chief of Platform) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-robert-day

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📖 The original, award-winning "Continuous Delivery" book by Dave Farley and Jez Humble ➡️ https://amzn.to/2WxRYmx

📖 "Continuous Delivery Pipelines" by Dave Farley Paperback ➡️ https://amzn.to/3gIULlA ebook version ➡️ https://leanpub.com/cd-pipelines

Equal Experts is a product software development consultancy with a network of over 1,000 experienced technology consultants globally. They increase the pace of innovation by using modern software engineering practices that embrace Continuous Delivery, Security, and Operability from the outset ➡️ https://bit.ly/3ASy8n0