In this episode, Dwayne and Jennifer sit down with Jake Hamilton for a raw, honest, and deeply needed conversation about the crisis in the church—and what real change can look like.

Together, we confront the fallout of leadership failure, the idolization of platforms, and the silence around broken marriages behind the scenes. Jake shares his personal story of near-collapse: burning out in ministry, nearly losing his marriage, and how repentance, emotional healing, and brotherhood brought restoration.

We talk about masculinity, responsibility, spiritual formation, and the need for leaders to live known—not just celebrated. We also confront the pain and complexity surrounding recent church scandals, including the Mike Bickle situation, and the responsibility we all carry to build something better.

This isn’t just critique—it’s a conversation filled with clarity, hope, and practical wisdom for anyone longing to see the church transformed from the inside out.

Tyler Bertola was a pastor’s daughter whose world collapsed after her father’s moral failures and addiction came to light. What followed wasn’t grace—it was rejection. Her family was removed from ministry, shunned by the church, and left to navigate spiritual trauma alone.

In this powerful conversation, Tyler shares her journey through church hurt, addiction, identity loss, and eventually—radical redemption. From hitting rock bottom in New York City to encountering God’s mercy through unexpected community and motherhood, her story is raw, honest, and full of hope.

If you’ve been wounded by the church or are wrestling with your faith, Tyler’s testimony will remind you that Jesus doesn’t give up on us—even when people do.

In this episode of The Dwayne and Jennifer Podcast, they share big news; they have closed their church. They talk about the last few year and how it has shaped their view of the Church, why they’ve decided to close their house churches, and what’s next.