This was a bucket list one, for sure. Thomas and Robbe's souls meet body as they chat with Ben Gibbard of Death Cab For Cutie and The Postal Service, as well as an ultrarunner and Speedland athlete. We dive into his recent finish at the Western States Endurance Run, what he listens to when he runs (Turnstile), as well as the release of his upcoming signature Speedland shoe, the GS:TMT.
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We're in the swing of Summer GRIT, big things happened at the Prefontaine Classic, and we try and figure out if cloud seeding meatballs can solve world hunger. If so, why aren't we doing that? Also, Meg heads to Seattle where she's going to dig into some mysteries outside of running. Finally, we talk about both the Skechers Aero Tempo and Satisfy TheRocker, two shoes on vastly different sides of the running spectrum.

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INDEX
0:00 - Intro
6:13 - Summer GRIT Week 1, Car Batteries, Customer Service
23:57 - Mont Blanc Virtual Run-through / Western States 2025 Video
28:33 - The 50th PreFontaine Classic / Nike Negativity
35:41 - Robbe's Barefoot Race / George the Pup
40:21 - Mr. Tasty Takes Over Baltimore
42:35 - BITR Summer Events / Leadville 100 / More Western States Talk
52:32 - Meg's Investigation into Portland Serial Killers
58:48 - More Running Talk
1:05:12 - Skechers Aero Tempo
1:15:22 - SATISFY The Rocker

It's another episode with Taylor, head of the Dirt Division, and this time he goes deep with ultrarunner Seth Ruhling. As part of The North Face team, Seth took on Western States and pulled in a 6th-place finish. This interview took place before the race, so we talk about Seth's upbringing, his training, and obviously his favorite shoes for taking on long challenges.