David Hayward - The Naked Pastor, Revealed

Divorced: Christianity

My guest today is known by many of you for his powerful cartoons and paintings related to deconstruction from Christianity. I’m speaking with my fellow Canadian, David Hayward, who is an ex-pastor turned full-time artist. David is also known as The Naked Pastor. He's been blogging about spirituality, deconstruction, and religious freedom since 2006. He is also the author of several books, including Til Doubt Do Us Part and Flip It Like This.

David participated on the Ex-Clergy Panel at CORT2021, the inaugural Conference on Religious Trauma, along with Dan Barker, Clint Heacock, and Tim Sledge.

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JANICE SELBIE

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is available here.

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Pamela Jones - Escaping a Deadly Polygamous Cult

DIVORCED: FLDS Cults

TW: Brief mention of CSA and child abuse in this episode

In 1965, PAMELA JONES was born in Los Molinos, Mexico, into a polygamous Mormon cult known as The Church of the Firstborn of the Fullness of Time. As the eldest daughter of 13 children, she left school at age 11 to care for her younger siblings in a remote desert compound without electricity or running water.

Married at 15, Pamela found herself trapped at Zion’s Camp, an even more oppressive cult offshoot, with a husband more controlling and manipulative than her abusive father.

At age 34, after 17 pregnancies and 9 children, Pamela and her kids escaped to the United States. With no resources and less than a fifth-grade education, she found work cleaning houses, determined to build a new life for her family.

Today Pamela and her sister Vera, also a cult survivor, host the podcast Wicked Confessions Uncensored, exploring the hidden world of polygamous cults, where pretenses of holiness mask shocking truths. Pamela and Vera pull back the curtain to reveal the scandals, immorality, hypocrisy, betrayal, and hidden reality of life in these oppressive and secretive communities.

Pamela lives outside Minneapolis with her sweetheart, Rick, close to her 9 children and 30 grandchildren. The Dirt Beneath Our Door: My Journey to Freedom After Escaping a Polygamous Mormon Cult is her first book.

FIND PAMELA JONES:

Website: https://www.pamelaspeaks.live/

Book: The Dirt Beneath Our Door https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Dirt-Beneath-Our-Door/Pamela-Jones/9781637747292

Podcast: Wicked Confessions Uncensored is available on most podcast platforms.

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Recordings are available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025! Get your Resource Ticket now:

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Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific and Thursdays at 6pm Eastern (starting April 17). Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support:

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Tara Jean Stevens - Heaven Bent

Divorced: Pentecostalism

CW: Sexuality discussed

Today I’m speaking with fellow Canadian Tara Jean (TJ) Stevens, the host and creator of Heaven Bent, a podcast docuseries with a special focus on Pentecostal and Charismatic movements. In addition to her successful podcast, TJ has also been a morning show favourite on Vancouver radio & TV for 25 years. Listen to "Tara Jean in the Morning" on Wave 98.3 - Vancouver's Coolest Vibe.

In this episode, TJ shares candidly how the “Toronto Blessing” and other charismatic Christian experiences impacted her life.

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FIND JANICE SELBIE

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is now available in the USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZFRecordings are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025! Get your Resource Ticket: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific/8 Eastern and Thursdays at 5pm Pacific/8pm Eastern. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support:

https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

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