After eight incredible years, the Defender Podcast is taking a short sabbatical. In this episode, Herbie Newell and Dr. Rick Morton reflect on the journey so far, share exciting plans for the future, and discuss how the podcast will continue to equip and encourage the body of Christ in orphan care and adoption. Tune in to hear what’s ahead, when to expect new episodes, and how you can stay engaged during the break!

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In this episode of The Defender Podcast, we welcome Kirti Pickard—adoptee, advocate, and podcast host—who shares her powerful adoption journey and how it fuels her passion for serving vulnerable children. Adopted from India at the age of four, Kirti has a deep, firsthand understanding of the lifelong impact of adoption. She discusses the challenges adoptees face, how faith shapes her work, and the importance of churches and communities walking alongside adoptive families. Through her podcast, When I Grow Up, and her leadership of Mission 143, she is dedicated to sharing stories of God’s faithfulness and raising support for children in need.

🎧 Tune in to hear:
✅ Kirti’s personal adoption story and how it shaped her faith
✅ The unseen challenges adoptees often experience
✅ How adoptive families can help children navigate identity and belonging
✅ Practical ways churches and communities can support adoptees
✅ How Mission 143 is making a tangible impact

Guest: Kirti Pickard
Kirti Pickard was born in India and adopted at the age of four, giving her a deep understanding of the profound impact of adoption. She is the host of When I Grow Up, a podcast sharing extraordinary stories of everyday people. Kirti also leads Mission 143, a fundraiser that donates 100% of its proceeds to Lifeline Children’s Services, helping to support vulnerable children and families.

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Host: Dr. Rick Morton
Dr. Rick Morton is the Vice President of Engagement at Lifeline Children’s Services.

Resources & Next Steps:
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At Lifeline Children’s Services, we equip families with gospel-centered training and resources to care for vulnerable children. If you’re considering adoption or looking for ways to support adoptive families, we are here to help.

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Mission 143 donates 100% of its proceeds to Lifeline Children’s Services. Every purchase helps support adoption and orphan care.
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Our mission is to equip the Body of Christ to manifest the gospel to vulnerable children. Our vision is for children and communities to be transformed by the gospel and to make disciples.

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🎙️In this episode of The Defender Podcast, we welcome Jamie Finn—author, nonprofit leader, and advocate for vulnerable children. As a foster and adoptive mom, she shares her journey, the biggest challenges foster families face, and how the Church can offer meaningful support. Jamie and her husband, Alan, have been foster parents for over 11 years, welcoming more than 30 children into their home while parenting seven children through birth, adoption, and foster care. She discusses how faith sustains her, the heart behind her work, and how she equips and encourages families through writing, speaking, and ministry.

🎧 Tune in to hear:
✅ Jamie’s personal fostering journey & challenges
✅ The biggest needs of foster families today
✅ How churches can truly support foster parents
✅ How faith sustains families through the highs and lows of fostering

Guest: Jamie Finn

Jamie is the author of Foster the Family, founder and president of Foster the Family, host of The Real Mom Podcast, and owner of Goods & Better. She is a sought-after speaker for foster and adoptive parent events and offers encouragement through her popular social media accounts. Jamie and her husband, Alan, live in New Jersey with their seven children.

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Host: Dr. Rick Morton

Dr. Rick Morton is the Vice President of Engagement at Lifeline Children’s Services.

Resources & Next Steps:

💙 Interested in Foster Care? At Lifeline Children’s Services, we equip families with gospel-centered training to make a lasting impact in the foster care system. Whether you're considering fostering or supporting foster families, we have resources, training, and support to guide you.

🔗 Learn more: LifelineChild.org/Foster

📖 About Lifeline Children’s Services:
Our mission is to equip the Body of Christ to manifest the gospel to vulnerable children. Our vision is for children and communities to be transformed by the gospel and to make disciples.

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In this episode of The Defender Podcast, Herbie Newell is joined by Karla Thrasher, Lifeline’s Senior Director of International Adoption, to discuss the heartbreaking impact of China’s five-year suspension of international adoptions, which left 400 children—many with special needs—waiting for families. Recent developments, including China’s September 2024 decision to end all international adoptions, have deepened the uncertainty for children and the 300 U.S. families still committed to them. Herbie and Karla explore the emotional toll on families, the long-term effects on children, and Lifeline’s ongoing advocacy at the highest levels, providing hope through prayer, support, and action.

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Karla Thrasher is a licensed social worker with a degree from the University of Alabama at Birmingham and a certified TBRI® Practitioner through the TCU Karen Purvis Institute of Child Development. Since joining Lifeline Children’s Services in 2001, she has dedicated her career to serving vulnerable children and families as Senior Director of International Adoption. Her leadership role allows her to fiercely advocate for the children and families she serves through quality assurance and excellent service.

Thrasher brings a wealth of experience and expertise to her role, which has been instrumental in developing Lifeline’s partnerships with international agencies, governments, and ministries. Through her work, she has seen God’s hand at work in placing children in loving, Christ-centered homes and providing support for families who adopt from around the globe.

Her greatest joy is sharing the gospel through the ministry of adoption. She lives in Birmingham with her husband, and they have three grown children who champion her ministry work at Lifeline.

HOST

Herbie Newell is the President & Executive Director of Lifeline Children’s Services and its ministry arms.

ADOPTION COUNSELING COURSE

At Lifeline Children’s Services, we are reminded daily of the global orphan crisis — a crisis affecting over 140 million vulnerable children worldwide. These children, many of whom are social orphans, need more than just temporary aid; they need the hope, love, and security that only a family can provide. While adoption is a beautiful way to answer this call, less than 0.5% of these children will ever be adopted. That’s why Lifeline is committed to walking alongside families on this faith-filled journey of international adoption, equipping them to step forward in obedience and care for the vulnerable. If you feel God stirring your heart to learn more, visit LifelineChild.org/Adoption to explore how you can get started in making an eternal impact.

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In this episode of The Defender Podcast, Christy Mack Segars, Vice President of Domestic Services at Lifeline Children’s Services, introduces the new Design Adoption Counseling Certificate, a free online resource created in partnership with Stand For Life. This course equips counselors, church leaders, and pregnancy center staff to compassionately guide women facing unplanned pregnancies, presenting adoption as a life-affirming option without coercion. Christy discusses the importance of accurate adoption education, addressing misconceptions, and supporting informed decision-making while highlighting the growing role of adoption advocacy within the pro-life movement.

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Christie Mac Segars, LICSW serves as the Vice President of Domestic Services at Lifeline Children’s Services. She holds a Bachelor’s degree from Samford University and a Master’s in Social Work from The University of Alabama. Since joining Lifeline in March 2013, Christie Mac has been dedicated to delivering the gospel to families in need and advancing the ministry of reconciliation and redemption through Lifeline’s diverse domestic programs.

Segars led the creation of the Designed Adoption Counseling Certificate Program in partnership with Stand for Life and is a frequent national speaker on adoption, family preservation, and the church’s role in pro-life advocacy.

Segars resides in Alabama with her husband, Croft, and their daughters.

HOST

Herbie Newell is the President & Executive Director of Lifeline Children’s Services and its ministry arms.

ADOPTION COUNSELING COURSE

Do you wonder if you’re having the right conversation about adoption with women in unexpected pregnancies? Research shows that women want information on all their options before they make an informed choice for their baby.

Through the Stand For Life and Lifeline Children’s Services Adoption Counseling Certification, you can become equipped on what to say—and what not to say—to a woman deciding between parenting, adoption, and abortion. Learn more and register at LifelineChild.org/AdoptionPartner.

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In today's episode of The Defender Podcast, Rick Morton welcomes Sarah Gable Seifert, co-founder of EveryLife—the first pro-life diaper and wipe company in America. Sarah shares her journey from life-changing experiences at JH Ranch to pivotal roles at Public Square and a pregnancy resource center in San Clemente. She reveals how her faith and passion for the pro-life movement led to the creation of EveryLife, meeting a crucial need for families and advocating for the value of every child. Sarah’s story is a testament to listening to God’s calling, stepping into bold ventures, and making a difference in the lives of the most vulnerable.

GUEST

Sarah Gabel Seifert, President and Co-Founder of EveryLife, is a proud wife to Michael Seifert and a new mother to Lily Gabel.

Previously, Sarah Gabel served as the Director of Sales at PublicSquare, where she spearheaded the development of a new advertising platform that resulted in $1 million annual recurring revenue within the first year of launching.

From 2020 to 2021, Sarah Gabel held the position of Client Services Director at the Pregnancy Resource Center in San Clemente. In this role, she managed and trained a team of over 80 volunteers while providing essential support to hundreds of vulnerable women facing unplanned pregnancies. Prior to that, she held various leadership positions at JH Ranch, a non-profit organization dedicated to strengthening and restoring the family unit.

With a heart for the pro-life community, Sarah Gabel has a passion for saving the unborn and investing in the next generation.

HOST
Dr. Rick Morton is the Vice President of Engagement at Lifeline Children's Services.

EVERYLIFE
Save 10% on your order from EveryLife when you use the code LIFELINE10 at checkout! Not only will you receive a discount, but Lifeline Children's Services will also receive a 10% donation of the cost of your diapers and wipes purchase. It’s a win-win! Shop now at EveryLife.

SANCTITY OF HUMAN LIFE

Today, we’re honored to welcome Sarah Gabel to The Defender Podcast. Her organization was founded with the belief that every child is a miracle from God, deserving of love, protection, and support—values that align deeply with our mission at Lifeline. At Lifeline, we are committed to advocating for the sanctity of life and equipping individuals and churches to stand boldly for the voiceless. We believe every life matters, and we are here to walk alongside you as you champion the cause of life in your community. If you’re looking for ways to engage during Sanctity of Human Life Month, visit LifelineChild.org/Sanctity for resources to inspire and equip you or your church.

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In this episode of The Defender Podcast, Herbie Newell is joined by Jor-El Godsey, president of Heartbeat International, to discuss the evolving landscape of the pro-life movement. Heartbeat International is at the forefront of supporting pregnancy help centers, maternity homes, and adoption services worldwide. Jor-El shares his insights on how the abortion industry is shifting, with a rise in chemical abortions and telecare options, and how Heartbeat is responding by empowering leaders and providing essential resources to meet women where they are. As we observe Sanctity of Life Month, Herbie and Jor-El also discuss the importance of equipping churches and communities to engage in the pro-life movement with practical tools, resources, and guidance.

GUEST

Jor-El Godsey is the President of Heartbeat International, leading a dedicated team that supports pregnancy help centers, maternity homes, and adoption services worldwide. His mission is to empower leaders in the pregnancy help movement by providing training, resources, and daily support to assist affiliates in serving women and couples at risk for abortion. Jor-El has been involved in this movement since 1988, starting as a volunteer at Hope in Ft. Lauderdale, then serving on the board and as Executive Administrator. He became the Executive Director of Life Choices in Longmont, Colorado, in 1999, and joined Heartbeat International as Vice-President in 2006. As the second President in the organization’s history, he emphasizes the importance of collaboration. Jor-El lives in Columbus, Ohio, with his wife, Karen, and their three children.

HOST

Herbie Newell is the President & Executive Director of Lifeline Children’s Services and its ministry arms.

OPTION LINE
If you're facing an unplanned pregnancy and feeling overwhelmed, you're not alone. Whether you're wondering if you're pregnant, considering emergency contraception, or thinking about your options, we're here to help. Call 1-800-712-4357 or text the same number for support and resources. You can also find a center near you to speak with someone who can offer guidance and care. Whatever you're going through, there is help available—you're in the right place.

SANCTITY OF HUMAN LIFE

We continue to highlight Sanctity of Human Life month and the vital role we all play in standing for life. Established by Ronald Reagan in 1984, this observance takes place on the third Sunday of January to remind us of our responsibility to value and protect every human life. We believe that effective action starts with being equipped, which is why we're excited to share a resource guide tailored for churches. This guide will help your congregation engage deeply with the pro-life movement, providing practical tools for discussion, prayer, and outreach. Join us as we explore how you can download this resource and empower your church to stand boldly for life! To access the resource guide, visit LifelineChild.org/Sanctity.

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In this first episode of 2025, Herbie Newell is joined by Pastor Chris Johnson, Lifeline Children's Services' Senior Director of Church Partnerships, to discuss the significance of Sanctity of Human Life Month. Pastor Chris, a seasoned pastor and adoptive father of seven, shares how valuing and protecting life is central to Lifeline’s mission. Together, they reflect on the evolution of the pro-life conversation, particularly since the Dobbs decision in 2022, and highlight practical ways churches and individuals can champion the intrinsic worth of every human life as we begin a new year.

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Chris Johnson is the Sr. Director of Church Partnerships at Lifeline Children’s Services and has over 20 years of pastoral experience. Based in Birmingham, Alabama, he and his wife Alicia have 10 children, seven of whom are adopted, are proud grandparents, and have fostered over 40 kids. Chris holds a B.A. in Church Ministries and an M.Ed. in Educational Leadership.

HOST

Herbie Newell is the President & Executive Director of Lifeline Children’s Services and its ministry arms.

SANCTITY OF HUMAN LIFE

Today, we want to shine a light on the Sanctity of Human Life, a meaningful observance that takes place on the third Sunday of January. In 1984, President Ronald Reagan declared this day to remind us of the importance of valuing and protecting life. It’s a time for churches nationwide to come together to pray, discuss, and take action for the voiceless. Lifeline Child has resources available to support your church’s efforts in standing for life, with speakers and materials that can help make an impact in your community. To learn more about how you can engage with this vital cause, visit LifelineChild.org/Sanctity.

LIFELINE CHILDREN'S SERVICES

The mission of Lifeline Children’s Services is to equip the Body of Christ to manifest the gospel to vulnerable children. Our vision is for vulnerable children and their communities to be transformed by the gospel and to make disciples.

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