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Apologist and evangelist Preston Perry joins Lecrae on The Deep End for a raw and thoughtful conversation about defending the faith without losing compassion. From debating Hebrew Israelites and Muslims to raising kids in a spiritual war, Preston breaks down why winning arguments isn’t the same as winning souls — and how empathy, truth, and obedience work together in evangelism.

They dive deep into:

• The difference between apologetics and argument
• How to spot the line between boldness and pride
• Reaching people who’ve been hurt by religion
• What Christians get wrong about empathy
• The truth about Hebrew Israelites, Islam, and false religions
• Breaking generational curses and fatherhood in a dark world
• The controversy around Charlie Kirk, race, and idolatry in the church

If you’ve ever wondered how to stand firm in truth while still leading with love — this episode will challenge and encourage you to do both.

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Dr. Tony Evans sits down with Lecrae for one of his most powerful and personal interviews yet. From growing up in Baltimore to becoming one of the most influential pastors of our time, Dr. Evans opens up about his father’s radical transformation, his journey as one of the first Black students at Dallas Theological Seminary, and how he built Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship.

They dive deep into the tensions of race, theology, and unity in the church, the hidden cost of leading a megachurch, raising godly kids in the public eye, and what spiritual warfare really looks like behind the scenes. Dr. Evans also shares how he navigated profound grief and loss, what it means to trust God in the dark, and the legacy he hopes to leave behind.

This conversation is a masterclass in faith, leadership, and resilience — with timeless wisdom for anyone navigating pain, calling, or cultural chaos.

Watch this episode to hear:

– How Tony Evans’ father’s conversion changed their family forever

– What it was like being one of the first Black seminarians in Dallas

– The hidden spiritual battles behind leadership and ministry

– How to raise a godly family in a glass house

– Why unity in the church reveals the glory of God

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Former Pussycat Doll, Kaya Jones, opens up to Lecrae about the dark side of fame, the spiritual war behind the music industry, and how Jesus redeemed her life.

From being signed by R. Kelly at 12 years old to witnessing the deepest corruption in pop culture, Kaya reveals what really happens behind the stage lights - and how God rescued her from the darkness. She shares the pain of industry abuse, abortion, and manipulation, and the supernatural ways God called her out of it all.

In this powerful conversation, Lecrae and Kaya talk about:

• The demonic systems running the entertainment industry
• Finding identity and freedom through Christ
• Why she left the Pussycat Dolls at their peak
• How Messianic Judaism reshaped her faith
• What it means to live fully redeemed in a broken culture

This episode exposes what many are afraid to say — but also points to the hope that never dies: Jesus still redeems the most unlikely stories.

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In this episode of The Deep End, Lecrae wrestles with the chaos of our modern culture wars. From the fallout of Charlie Kirk’s assassination to the pressure Christians feel to “pick a side,” he shares his personal experience of being pulled into the crossfire. Lecrae opens up about a shocking vision he had in Africa, the spiritual realities behind political violence, and why the Kingdom of God cannot be reduced to red vs. blue.

This conversation challenges us to ask: Are we fighting with the weapons of the empire, or living out the way of Jesus?

📌 Topics we cover:

• Why Christians are pressured to join the culture war
• Lecrae’s personal story after Charlie Kirk’s death
• A powerful vision revealing the spiritual battle behind political violence
• Empire vs. Kingdom logic: what Jesus modelled in the midst of conflict
• How the church can embody unity, truth, and love in divided times

The Kingdom doesn’t look like the left or the right — it looks like Christ.

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Bryce Crawford went from battling crippling depression and planning to end his life… to becoming one of GenZ’s boldest voices for Jesus. At just 21, he’s already sharing the gospel at Burning Man, on the streets, and online with millions of viewers.

In this powerful conversation with Lecrae, Bryce opens up about:

• His near-suicide moment on Christmas Day and the unexpected encounter that changed everything
• How Jesus freed him from anxiety and depression
• The heart behind his street evangelism and why he talks to people others avoid
• Gen Z’s hunger for spirituality—and the dangers of treating Christianity as just a “vibe”
• Mental health, therapy, and the balance between supernatural healing and practical wisdom
• Navigating digital influence, criticism, and leading with integrity at a young age

This episode is raw, encouraging, and a reminder that God can use anyone—at any age—to shake up the world.

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The assassination of Charlie Kirk has left the nation in shock — and raised hard questions for The Church. Some see him as a hero of the faith, while others struggle with his polarizing legacy.

In this episode of The Deep End, Lecrae sits down with Justin Giboney and Corey Ruth to reflect on what happened, how Christians should respond in moments of tragedy, and what this means for the future of faith and politics in America.

This is an honest, thoughtful conversation about grief, unity, and the dangers of division.

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B. Simone joins Lecrae LIVE at Woman Evolve 2025 for one of the most real and unfiltered conversations yet on The Deep End Podcast. From going viral on Instagram and starring on Wild ’N Out to building a billion-dollar app for women, B. Simone opens up about her faith journey, her battles with identity, and how surrendering to God completely changed her life.

In this powerful conversation, they talk about:

✨ How B. Simone went from chasing fame to chasing purpose in Christ

✨ The conviction that led her to walk away from big opportunities

✨ Why validation and social media couldn’t satisfy her

✨ Building resilience through failure and grace

✨ The freedom that comes when you let God redefine your platform

If you’ve ever wrestled with identity, purpose, or public criticism, this episode will encourage you to keep getting back up and trusting God’s process.

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Beth Moore sits down with Lecrae on The Deep End Podcast for a raw and powerful conversation about faith, suffering, courage, and the cost of conviction. From her early years teaching Bible studies to leaving the Southern Baptist Convention, Beth opens up about abuse, submission, women in ministry, and why she could no longer stay silent about politics and power in the church.

In this episode, Beth shares how she stayed anchored in Jesus through controversy, how her marriage survived trauma and trials, and how she’s finding new belonging in the Anglican church. This is a conversation about faithfulness in the wilderness, the danger of marrying church and empire, and the unshakable hope we have in Christ.

If you’ve ever wrestled with doubt, tradition, or feeling unwanted by the church—you’re not alone. Beth Moore’s story is a reminder that following Jesus sometimes means standing against the tide.

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