The Conversation Before the Conversation: How Civity Helps Strengthen Our Civic Muscle - DTH Episode 296 with Malka Kopell and Palma Joy Strand
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The Conversation Before the Conversation: How Civity Helps Strengthen Our Civic Muscle - DTH Episode 296 with Malka Kopell and Palma Joy Strand
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In Episode 296 of Derate The Hate, Wilk Wilkinson is joined by Malka Kopell and Palma Joy Strand, co-founders of Civity, for a deeply human conversation about rebuilding trust, strengthening communities, and rediscovering our civic muscle.
At a time when institutional trust is declining and polarization feels overwhelming, Malka and Palma share why relationships — not arguments — are the true foundation of social change.
Together, they explore:
- Why storytelling builds trust across difference
- How listening can be a courageous civic act
- What “the conversation before the conversation” really means
- Simple, everyday actions that restore agency and belonging
This episode is a reminder that small human moments — when multiplied — can change the culture around us.
Learn more about Civity and connect with Malka & Palma by checking out the full show notes for this episode at www.DerateTheHate.com
The world is a better place if we are better people. That begins with each of us as individuals. Be kind to one another. Be grateful for all you’ve got. Make every day the day that you want it to be!
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