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  • Hour 2 - Segment 4 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Sheriff's Runoff Debate - Rusty Clevenger vs. Bill Rhyne hosted by Charlie James part 4 of 4

    Hour 2 - Segment 4 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Sheriff's Runoff Debate - Rusty Clevenger vs. Bill Rhyne hosted by Charlie James part 4 of 4
    Aug 14 2025
    Hour 2 - Segment 4 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Sheriff's Runoff Debate - Rusty Clevenger vs. Bill Rhyne hosted by Charlie James part 4 of 4 - You know, we just talked about, community policing, the importance of the average citizen in law enforcement. There's a new study that was done by NPR, and I hate to quote them, but NPR said that most people don't report crime because they just don't feel like anything is going to be done about it. Bill Ryan, can you just let the people know that they're very important? Absolutely. This is about taking a proactive choice and making a proactive choice, not just from law enforcement, but also from the people. You know? We need to be a proactive agency. We need to not be a reactive agency. When you become a reactive agency, what is happening is crime's already taken place. That's where I get back to talking about crime prevention. We need to if you are proactive, you begin to reduce crime. You absolutely 100% that has to be the mindset of the people too because they want crime to go down. If they see things, they need to report it. They need to talk to us. Just as Rusty gave an example just a minute ago, it takes just one thing, just the smallest of things, and we say this all the time with, like, hit and runs. We would have, say, a felony DUI with death, and it was a hit and run. How many people saw that crash? I mean, let's let's realistically think about how much traffic is. Now, they could have been in the area they might not have seen it, but in most cases, there's gonna be a lot of traffic around those areas. Some people just choose to not get involved. I don't know if it's because of fear of, repercussions. I I really don't know what it is, but we all have to have a, vested interest in our county. And, you know, this is such a wonderful area to live. You start looking at Spartanburg County. You start looking at Greenville County and the growth rate. Let me tell you something. Greenville and Spartanburg County are what drive the state of South Carolina and will continue to drive the state of South Carolina for years to come. Mister Clevedger, how can we assure people that when they do report a crime, something's gonna be done about it? Intelligence is a an unbelievable important part of law enforcement now. And as Bill stated, you know, we've gotta look at, doing something before crime's actually committed. If we can, you know, work a vandalism that might lead up to a more serious crime burglary, other things. That's definitely worth our time and, you know, to make sure that, the citizens are are taken care of, and it could be as simple as that. And so the most minute thing may just like I was talking about just a moment ago, the most minute thing or the the the littlest of information that's passed on, is extremely important. But I believe your question was, you know, can the citizens rest assured that sheriff's office is gonna be receptive and responsive to those issues? Yes. I've, if I were elected sheriff, yes, I would make sure that was a priority because that's the way I was as a detective. I actually won a crime stoppers award one year while I was a detective, and that is citizens calling in, making sure that, you know, their concerns are heard and understood. And following through with that is what got me that award that year. And simply, I mean, simply put, if you're doing a great job, if you're, you know, a good detective, you're following through with that. And as sheriff, I would evaluate and make sure we have good detectives in that, in that department to make sure and take care of the crimes and hopefully solve them before we have something more serious come up. I wanna thank the folks from Palmetto House Republican Women. We've got Debbie Baker joining us. Debbie, do you have a question for the candidates? And I think this is going to involve some of our students in Spartanburg. Right? Yes. Thank you, Charlie. I am also a sitting board member on Spartanbur ...
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  • Hour 2 - Segment 3 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Sheriff's Runoff Debate - Rusty Clevenger vs. Bill Rhyne hosted by Charlie James part 3 of 4

    Hour 2 - Segment 3 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Sheriff's Runoff Debate - Rusty Clevenger vs. Bill Rhyne hosted by Charlie James part 3 of 4
    Aug 14 2025
    Hour 2 - Segment 3 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Sheriff's Runoff Debate - Rusty Clevenger vs. Bill Rhyne hosted by Charlie James part 3 of 4 -- I have a really good question from one of our texters over on the common sense retirement planning text line. We're about to elect, the first new sheriff in Spartanburg County in twenty years. We'll throw this one out to to you, Rusty. Do you believe in term limits for sheriff? I sure do. And how long should that be? Well, I particularly have, set a term limit on myself of seven years. It would be the remainder of this term and one more if I'm, elected sheriff. Alright. And you, Bill? Yes. I I do believe in term limits. And mine varies just a little bit. I I do think and you you get into a really gray area when you start talking about term limits because you run yourself and you back yourself into a corner. So let's just hypothetically say if you said it was twelve years. So, they get out and they work really, really hard their first two terms, but what holds them accountable to working hard that last term with they know that they're going to finish? Are they still gonna be doing what you expect them to do? That doesn't change the fact that I believe in term limits because, you know, if you look at a lot of the standards within the military, if you get stuck in the same rank for ten years, you're probably not gonna be in the military too much longer because you're no longer effective at that point in time. You have to surround yourself with people that are gonna want to challenge you, that are gonna want to hold you accountable, that are gonna push you to continue to get better. But, you know, as as mister Clevenger said, you know, I'm 50. The maximum that I would do would I would finish out this three year term. And then if elected again, I would do two more terms for a maximum of eleven years because I would never do more than twelve years at its at its max. Mister Ryan, you brought up a minute ago about mental health. Yes, sir. Are there situations now we know that one of the most dangerous situations that a deputy can be in is when he's called to a domestic violence situation or domestic situation. Are there certain instances where law enforcement deputies should back off and mental health professionals go in and take, I don't wanna say control of the situation, but me be more forward in the situation? That's that's too subjective of a question to be able to actually answer that honestly because if it's a situation that you have to deal with it right right away. So we'll look at what took place at Westgate Mall this past week. Right. That individual obviously was suffering from some type or at least appeared to be suffering from some type of mental illness at that point in time. Obviously, that's not confirmed, but based on what you're seeing from videotape, they were they were I mean, there there was something else going on there other than somebody just being combative and not wanting to do what they said. So, you know, in that situation, they posed an immediate threat. There's not a time limit for mental health to come in. Certainly, if you ran into a situation where there was not an immediate threat that you could bring somebody out in with that expertise if you had those relationships, then that may be something that you would consider. But at the end of the day, it boils down to more of getting your officers the proper training that they need so they can recognize those mental health issues that they're dealing with and providing them with the training that they can actually kinda cross that and bridge that gap between mental health and law enforcement. Because there's no reason to think that a law enforcement officer could not be trained in such a manner that they could have those same techniques and information those mental health specialists, are dealing with to be able to deescalate those situations and help them, bring that situation to a close. Mister Cleverj ...
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  • Hour 2 - Segment 2 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Sheriff's Runoff Debate - Rusty Clevenger vs. Bill Rhyne hosted by Charlie James part 2 of 4

    Hour 2 - Segment 2 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Sheriff's Runoff Debate - Rusty Clevenger vs. Bill Rhyne hosted by Charlie James part 2 of 4
    Aug 14 2025
    Hour 2 - Segment 2 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Sheriff's Runoff Debate - Rusty Clevenger vs. Bill Rhyne hosted by Charlie James part 2 of 4 - And welcome back. News Talk ninety eight nine WRLD joined by Rusty Clevenger and Bill Ryan. Let's start off with the two eighty seven g program. Basically, deputizing, deputies as ICE agents. We'll start with Rusty Clevenger. Do you agree with this program? Would you be supportive of it? I do. There has been some fear, that's been put out with or or by different individuals about the program itself, but I I believe that's largely because of the opposition to it. But I am in agreement with it and would participate in it, deputizing, our deputies to work alongside these ladies and gentlemen. We've got to consider we've got people illegally in our country, that are perpetuating crime, and we need to make sure that if they're here illegally and they're committing crimes against, the people in our county that they need to be removed. First, they need to be punished for committing crime, but they need to leave Spartanburg. They need to leave US and come back. They need to repatriate and come back and do it legally just like everybody else has. So, when I speak about the fear mongering, you know, we're we're talking about agents being or, you know, going into schools and pulling kids out or, you know, wearing masks and stuff like that. That that wouldn't happen, if a deputy was alongside them. I can tell you that they would not be going into schools. They would not be threatening our children, and certainly, wouldn't be wearing masks because we don't have anything to hide. We have nothing to be embarrassed about, and it will be, good information made. You know, we wanna make sure our deputies are following through and making sure that the information we have is true and correct to make sure we affect a good arrest and do what we need to do and and keep the fear down that's being perpetuated out here. Do you agree with that, mister Ryan? Yes, sir. Absolutely. You know, the day that I announced, you had me on the air on the third, and that was one of the first questions you asked me. And I took a stance on that from day one that we would support two eighty seven g. Not only are we gonna support it, we're gonna provide any assets that we need to provide to them to ensure that they can accomplish their task. You know, as mister Clevenger said, this is a this is a rule of law. That's what I think a lot of people don't realize that these are people that have physically broken the law, that have been identified as being true threats to the people of this country, and we as law enforcement officers have a responsibility at the end of the day, number one, to protect the constitution of The United States. But as part of that, we have to protect those people in The United States. So we're gonna provide those assets if they see a need to come here into South Carolina, into Spartanburg County and provide them the assets that they need to be able to, finish up their jobs. You know, one of the problems that people are seeing is just the sensationalization of what is taking place. You've got a lot of, we'll say non conservative media outlets across this nation that are choosing to push an agenda. That's just not true, and there's been several times that I've been contacted asking what I support them going into schools and taking children away from families. I don't know that that's ever, you know, there's so much fake news out there when it comes to things like that. I've never had anybody actually show me any evidence of anything like that, but, certainly, we're not going to do that. We're not gonna take those children away from their, parents in any way, but, absolutely, we have a responsibility constitutional responsibility to stand with the federal government on that. And that leads me to my next question. We'll stay with you, mister Ryan. Yes, sir. Should ICE determine that their presence is ne ...
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  • Hour 2 - Segment 1 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Sheriff's Runoff Debate - Rusty Clevenger vs. Bill Rhyne hosted by Charlie James part 1 of 4 -

    Hour 2 - Segment 1 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Sheriff's Runoff Debate - Rusty Clevenger vs. Bill Rhyne hosted by Charlie James part 1 of 4 -
    Aug 14 2025
    Hour 2 - Segment 1 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Sheriff's Runoff Debate - Rusty Clevenger vs. Bill Rhyne hosted by Charlie James part 1 of 4 - And welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to your Spartanburg County sheriff's debate. We've got Bill Ron and Rusty Clevenger joining us this afternoon. The candidates have been advised of the rules for the debate, and they have agreed to them. So let's just jump right into it. I've asked, texters to, send us questions as well. But first, we wanna start off with just an introduction. Fellows, give us a little ninety second introduction of yourself. We'll start with you, Bill Ryan. Thanks, Charlie. I appreciate you guys having this today. Yeah. My name's Bill Ryan. I am, 50 years old, born and raised in Spartanburg County. I, graduated from Chapman High School and, joined United States Marine Corps. After I got out of the Marine Corps, I went to work with the Spartanburg County Sheriff's Office where I spent a majority of my time working in community policing. I was a resident deputy in the Arcadia Fair Forest area. In February, I transitioned to the South Carolina Highway Patrol working in various roles across the, Upstate Of South Carolina, predominantly in Greenville and Spartanburg until I went over to the ACE team and rode the motorcycle. In 02/2008, I transitioned over into public relations where I remained until I retired in 2022. I retired as lieutenant over the community relations, public relations, public education recruiting, and for you for the entire state of South Carolina. I went to work with American Services as director of training there. I was I was directly responsible for approximately 1,500 officers over seven states. Unfortunately, that company sold out after the death of mister Harrison, and I had the opportunity to return to the highway patrol. I returned to the highway patrol's community outreach coordinator where I remained for the next two and a half years until I resigned on June 2 in order to announce that I was running for sheriff here in Spartanburg County. You know, often ask why I'm running for sheriff, and I tell people I just have such a vested interest. I just had a burden put on my heart to run. You know, I was born and raised in this county. I raised my children in this county. My grandchildren are likely to be raised in this county, and I just have a vested interest in where this county is going and just recognize that the sheriff's office is where quality of life starts for so many people within our county. Alright. Thank you very much. Rusty Clevenger? Good afternoon. Thanks everyone for listening in. I really appreciate you guys, putting this on for us. My name is Rusty Clevenger. I'm 61 years old. I'm almost, end of this month will be forty years as a public servant for Spartanburg County. I began my career in 1985, of course, with the sheriff's office where I was uniform patrol deputy. I stayed there for approximately two and a half years. And after graduating the academy in 1987, I applied for and was given a a chance to start investigations, and that's where I've been ever since. Start off narcotics and vice investigation. I was then promoted to, detective where I stayed for a number of years. The last five of which of the eleven year stamp with the sheriff's office was violent crime and homicide detective. After then in 1997, I was asked to go to the solicitor's office where I stayed as an investigator doing violent crime investigation. In the last sixteen and a half, of my career, as your Spartanburg County coroner doing death investigation and dealing with victim families, and that's what it's all about for me. I've been asked about why I'm running for sheriff, and a lot of it has to do with getting to the bottom, getting to the truth of a matter, and being able to assist victim families in the worst time of need, and also making sure that that crime is solved. Alright. Our first question comes from a, a texter, and it was one ...
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  • H1 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Charlie James Show

    H1 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Charlie James Show
    Aug 14 2025
    H1 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Charlie James Show And welcome to the program on your Thursday afternoon. Don't forget coming up at 04:00 this afternoon, just a little under an hour from now, we will be having a debate between, the these candidates for Spartanburg County sheriff. You don't wanna miss out on that. It's gonna be, very interesting, debate. Mister Clevenger, mister Ryan, gonna be squaring off here. Before you go to the polls and vote for your Spartanburg County sheriff, this is a very important race, so you don't wanna don't want to, miss out on this opportunity. Also, don't forget, coming up tomorrow, we'll be talking with lieutenant governor Pamela Evatt in the, 04:00 hour about her race for governor of South Carolina. And we got a story coming up also this afternoon in just a few minutes, where a judge has ruled that a transgender student in Berkeley County can use the bathroom according to how they feel that particular day. We'll talk to Sarita Edgerton about the bathroom bill coming up at, 05:06 this afternoon. So busy, busy day going on, but we had a special guest in the Upstate today. Do you know who it was? Anybody know who dropped by over in Anderson? Attorney general Pam Bondi. Yeah. She was, in the Upstate. She dropped by mama pen's restaurant, posted a picture with her and the staff, over on Facebook. She was in the Upstate for a high level law enforcement roundtable in Greenville focused on strengthening partnerships between state and federal agencies, uh-huh, to combat crime. That's according to South Carolina attorney general, Alan Wilson. It was an honor to host attorney general Pam Bondi this morning in Greenville where federal, state, and local law enforcement came together to discuss human trafficking, drug trafficking, illegal immigration, and the alarming rise in acts of antisemitism, said attorney general Alan Wilson. Never has they been a more united front between state and federal partners, and, let's see. Where where is that Federal Logan anyway, Wilson's office said the panel also included US attorney Brian Sterling, principal deputy, deputy administrator of the DEA Robert Murphy, South Carolina sheriffs and police chiefs, FBI, DEA agents, members of the US attorney's office, and federal lawmakers, including congressman Joe Wilson, congressman William Timmons, congresswoman Sherry Biggs, and congressman Russell Fry. So, man, I wish they would have told me that was gonna be dropping by. I would have baked a cake or something. That would have been, awesome. I would really like to meet Pam Bondy. That would be a cool thing. But but we're gonna be talking about law enforcement a lot today, especially with the, debate coming up in, at 04:00. You don't wanna, again, you don't wanna miss out on that because we've got a serious crime problem. We've got fights in Downtown Greenville. I don't know if you guys heard about this, but over in Malden, somebody shot up a neighborhood. 52 rounds were fired. Three homes were hit. We've got again, we got those fights in Downtown Greenville. We got this happening. I mean, it's it's it's like we have this culture of lawlessness going on right now, and we gotta make sure something gets done about it. And one of the things that I really wanna talk to the candidates about because I remember when they were bringing in the Spartanburgers, they were building the new baseball stadium over in Spartanburg, and I was asking people, hey. You know, it's just kind of a fun little segment. Hey. What do you think the, what do you think the name of the new baseball team ought to be? And we had things like the criminals, the murder burgers. I it was just I was like I was shocked that the reputation that Spartanburg has, whether it is warranted or not, they've got that reputation of being crime ridden. So what what is the new sheriff gonna be able to do about that? That's the big question. Because it's going on all over the place, and it just seem and people are get ...
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  • H1 - Segment 2 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Charlie James Show

    H1 - Segment 2 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Charlie James Show
    Aug 14 2025
    And welcome back to the program. Let's go to the WRID chalk line. We'll talk to Dean in Cashville. How are you doing, Dean? Not bad, Charlie. And I don't know what the message someone's seeing on Facebook was, but the service you're doing for this community is immense. And the reason I mentioned this is the fault you all cut you all are the voice of the Carolinas. And that's that means a lot of people do not realize what's at stake in this sheriff's race. Yeah. Charlie, you if you have not been to Downtown Spartanburg, the Montgomery Building that has been restored, there is the lobby is vintage nineteen twenties. It's gorgeous. They've got another new hotel, and I've not been to Boiling Springs in years. Right. Their target is amazing. So what I'm saying is there's a lot of money coming into Spartanburg, a lot of development. And that when you talk to the sheriff, this is one issue that it's like going to Downtown Spartanburg. That would be a great thing to do. This is why what you're doing is so important and why I wanted I just wanted to thank you for what you do. And the Montgomery Building in Spartanburg is gorgeous. Well, I appreciate it. Thank you very much, Dean. Let's go to David in Greenville and talk to him. David, what's on your mind this afternoon? Well, you're talking, I'm one of those people like you who was glad that, I see the police drive through drive through my neighborhood. Yeah. Well, this morning, I went to parties to have my twice weekly breakfast there. Alright. There is this, no time to make it racial here, but this black woman had a couple of small children with her. Well, the, two police officers come in. Guess what? The smallest child started dealing when he saw police walk up. Oh, no. What? He's screaming and crying and checking. I hate you, police. I hate you. Oh my gosh. And that's that's it. I mean, you people teach their children to be afraid of police officers, and that is completely the wrong thing to do because who are they gonna run to if there's a problem? I appreciate it, David. Thank you. Let's go to Melissa in Malden. Melissa, welcome to you. Hello, Charlie. How are you? I'm doing good. How about yourself? Wait. Melissa from Malden. Yes, ma'am. What's going on? You know what I wanna talk about? So I wanna talk about our senior citizens and Social Security and all of that. I ordered a pizza yesterday, and this poor man came with a walker. I mean, not a walker, a cane, and a pizza in one hand, cane in the other, walking to my front door. He's 80 years old, and he cannot survive of his Social Security check. I I mean, I literally talked to him for, like, ten minutes. Yeah. But my husband's in the same boat. He's 70. He's living off Social Security. And my thing is is, like, all of this money that American taxpayers have sent for the illegals through Social Security Yeah. The during the Biden administration. You are right. When are our so when when are our seniors gonna get a a check? A decent raise. They need it they need to be repaid because this is ridiculous. This poor man is delivering pizzas at 80 years old. Right. Yeah. Just do. A cane. Yeah. I understand. Unacceptable. It is unacceptable. And and then the Biden administration, they literally stole money from taxpayers. I appreciate it, Melissa. Stole and it's not just the illegal aliens. It's the people that are getting Social Security illegally. Those are the only people that the Republicans are looking at kicking off the Social Security roles and the Medicare roles and the Medicaid roles are the people that are gaming the system. They're the ones that are stealing from the American people, but the Democrats, they're like, oh, no. We have to protect those. Alright. I got a nasty. I got a nasty email yesterday. We told you about the story yesterday about, these animal advocates who basically, according to the sheriff's department, stole this little dog named Max. They named it Max. That was I think the dog's r ...
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  • H1 - Segment 1 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Charlie James Show

    H1 - Segment 1 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Charlie James Show
    Aug 14 2025
    H1 - Segment 1 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Charlie James Show And welcome to the program on your Thursday afternoon. Don't forget coming up at 04:00 this afternoon, just a little under an hour from now, we will be having a debate between, the these candidates for Spartanburg County sheriff. You don't wanna miss out on that. It's gonna be, very interesting, debate. Mister Clevenger, mister Ryan, gonna be squaring off here. Before you go to the polls and vote for your Spartanburg County sheriff, this is a very important race, so you don't wanna don't want to, miss out on this opportunity. Also, don't forget, coming up tomorrow, we'll be talking with lieutenant governor Pamela Evatt in the, 04:00 hour about her race for governor of South Carolina. And we got a story coming up also this afternoon in just a few minutes, where a judge has ruled that a transgender student in Berkeley County can use the bathroom according to how they feel that particular day. We'll talk to Sarita Edgerton about the bathroom bill coming up at, 05:06 this afternoon. So busy, busy day going on, but we had a special guest in the Upstate today. Do you know who it was? Anybody know who dropped by over in Anderson? Attorney general Pam Bondi. Yeah. She was, in the Upstate. She dropped by mama pen's restaurant, posted a picture with her and the staff, over on Facebook. She was in the Upstate for a high level law enforcement roundtable in Greenville focused on strengthening partnerships between state and federal agencies, uh-huh, to combat crime. That's according to South Carolina attorney general, Alan Wilson. It was an honor to host attorney general Pam Bondi this morning in Greenville where federal, state, and local law enforcement came together to discuss human trafficking, drug trafficking, illegal immigration, and the alarming rise in acts of antisemitism, said attorney general Alan Wilson. Never has they been a more united front between state and federal partners, and, let's see. Where where is that Federal Logan anyway, Wilson's office said the panel also included US attorney Brian Sterling, principal deputy, deputy administrator of the DEA Robert Murphy, South Carolina sheriffs and police chiefs, FBI, DEA agents, members of the US attorney's office, and federal lawmakers, including congressman Joe Wilson, congressman William Timmons, congresswoman Sherry Biggs, and congressman Russell Fry. So, man, I wish they would have told me that was gonna be dropping by. I would have baked a cake or something. That would have been, awesome. I would really like to meet Pam Bondy. That would be a cool thing. But but we're gonna be talking about law enforcement a lot today, especially with the, debate coming up in, at 04:00. You don't wanna, again, you don't wanna miss out on that because we've got a serious crime problem. We've got fights in Downtown Greenville. I don't know if you guys heard about this, but over in Malden, somebody shot up a neighborhood. 52 rounds were fired. Three homes were hit. We've got again, we got those fights in Downtown Greenville. We got this happening. I mean, it's it's it's like we have this culture of lawlessness going on right now, and we gotta make sure something gets done about it. And one of the things that I really wanna talk to the candidates about because I remember when they were bringing in the Spartanburgers, they were building the new baseball stadium over in Spartanburg, and I was asking people, hey. You know, it's just kind of a fun little segment. Hey. What do you think the, what do you think the name of the new baseball team ought to be? And we had things like the criminals, the murder burgers. I it was just I was like I was shocked that the reputation that Spartanburg has, whether it is warranted or not, they've got that reputation of being crime ridden. So what what is the new sheriff gonna be able to do about that? That's the big question. Because it's going on all over the place, and it just seem and ...
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  • FULL SHOW - Wed Aug 13 2025 - The Charlie James Show

    FULL SHOW - Wed Aug 13 2025 - The Charlie James Show
    Aug 13 2025
    Hour 1 You guys like camping? I love camping. I think camping is great. I haven't been camping in a long, long time because my wife believes that camping her idea of camping is staying in a three star hotel where they don't have turndown service. I like to get out in a tent outdoors, you know, cook over an open fire. I enjoy that. Getting out there, just getting back to nature. So just something I mean, food just tastes better. Everything is just really great when you go camping. I love it. I think it's fantastic. I would love to do more camping. I and in fact, I don't know if you guys watched the, the Outdoor Boys. I know it's been he shut down the channel. Not the channel, but he's not doing any more content right now. This guy, Luke Nichols, will go out, and he'll go camping, like, in the the frozen tundra, or he'll go out in the woods or or mountaineering or whatever. And he just basically shows you I don't wanna call it survival skills, but because he always brings really good delicious food. But it's it's a really fascinating thing. The the the all of that had just just millions and millions of viewers, but camping is a lot of fun. But when you camp, you prepare to camp. You get your tent. You make you guide make sure you got your sleeping bag. You got your backpack. You got your little canteen. You got your, your dishes, your your you know, all your kit there for your eating, maybe a little stove. That's a planned event. That's what you do. You plan to go camping. You figure out where you're going camping, then you go do it. They are changing the name of that, not the name of camping. They're keeping that name, but they're changing the image of camping in Greenville. There is now a thing, oh my gosh, called public camping. Now you might wonder what public camping is. What is public camping, Charlie? That's those are the people the public campers are the people that you see, like, on the side of a road in an easement or in an alley. They're homeless. They're changing the name of the homeless to public campers. That sounds a lot more appealing than than homeless population, doesn't it? Oh, we have a big public camping community here in Greenville. It is so wonderful. No. They're homeless. You see, I guess, homeless carries some negative connotation. Public camping. Oh, that sounds that sounds a little more, appetizing. That's a little bit easier, to deal with, right, than than hold on. Well, they're trying to do something about so called public camping. Greenville City Council is currently debating a proposed ordinance that would prohibit camping in public places, a move that has sparked concern among advocates for the homeless. Council member John Dworkin introduced the ordinance. This is from Lauren Miller over there at, WSPA. John Dworkin introduced the ordinance after receiving numerous concerns from constituents about people camping on city streets and plazas. The proposed ordinance, which has not yet had his first reading, would prevent individuals from making beds with sleeping bags or blankets in public areas. He said, I sent an email out to about 3,000 of my constituents. In seventy two hours, I received 300 plus emails plus of which 80% said, yes. We should have a camping ordinance. I'm just thinking this is, are you are you guys thinking this is as funny as I am? They're camping. Is it campers? Alright. The proposed ordinance has drawn mixed reactions from the community. Some business managers like Jonathan Wood of A. Smith Clothiers support the measure, believing it could help create a safer environment for everyone. It seems like a good solution to try to get people in a place where they can be safer, Wood said. However, others, such as Downtown Batman, a local advocate who provides food, water, and clothing to the homeless, argued that the ordinance could do more harm than good. Where are they supposed to go? They have nowhere to go. That's why they're here. Nonprofits like Greenville Tog ...
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