In this episode of The Burn Podcast, we bring YOU directly inside the Mental Toughness Forum—a powerhouse gathering featuring some of the world’s most elite performers in sports, business, and personal growth.

Host Ben Newman is joined by an extraordinary lineup of speakers: Bo Eason, Dr. Jana Haywood, Drew Hanlen, Jen Gottlieb, and Michael Chandler. Each brings raw stories, proven strategies, and unshakable lessons on what it takes to build the mental toughness required to win—on and off the field.

🔥 Bo Eason reveals how declaring a dream at nine years old—and refusing to quit despite constant rejection—forged his toughness and took him all the way to the NFL.

🔥 Dr. Jana Haywood shares her journey through injury, transition, and coaching, reminding us that mental toughness is a muscle—one that must be trained daily to brace for life’s toughest moments.

🔥 Drew Hanlen, NBA skills coach, breaks down “The 5 Whats” that change everything—what you’re avoiding, what unforced errors you’re making, and what you truly want—while challenging YOU to stop playing small and start doing the work.

🔥 Jen Gottlieb gets real about vulnerability, authenticity, and fear—showing how true toughness is facing discomfort head-on and proving to yourself that temporary pain leads to permanent growth.

🔥 Michael Chandler, UFC fighter, defines toughness not by brute strength but by perseverance, faith, and the relentless pursuit of your goals—even through failure, setbacks, and 688 days without a win.

Together, these voices deliver a message that will light YOU up: success is built on discipline, resilience, and the ability to get back up one more time than you’ve been knocked down.

This is more than motivation—it’s a roadmap. The lessons, tools, and stories shared here will help YOU silence the noise, embrace discomfort, and build the mental toughness required to achieve YOUR greatest potential.

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In this special compilation episode of The Burn Podcast, Ben Newman sits down with three powerhouse leaders who have taken lessons from the field and turned them into lasting impact—proving that true leadership extends far beyond the game.

First, we hear from Kaleb Thornhill, a trailblazer in the NFL’s player engagement and development space. With over 15 years of front office experience, Kaleb created the groundbreaking “Business Combine,” a transformational off-field experience for current and former NFL players. As Co-Founder of the Pro Athlete Community (PAC), he’s dedicated to investing in athletes’ futures, accelerating growth, and building community that lasts long after the final whistle.

Next, we revisit my conversation with Ted Rath, who at the time was Head Strength Coach for the LA Rams and Sean McVay’s famous “get back coach.” Now the VP of Player Performance for the Philadelphia Eagles, Ted shares his inspiring journey into the NFL, the mindset required to build championship culture, and the lessons learned from guiding elite athletes at the highest level.

Finally, we close with Tyler Owens, former Alabama player turned championship-caliber strength and conditioning coach. From working alongside legendary coaches at Alabama to leading programs at the University of Arizona and now Washington University, Tyler breaks down what it really takes to coach, develop, and prepare teams to perform when it matters most. His story is a masterclass in grit, leadership, and the relentless pursuit of excellence.

This episode is a deep dive into leadership, preparation, and building a legacy that outlasts the scoreboard.


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In this special compilation episode of The Burn Podcast, Ben Newman brings together three powerful stories from athletes, leaders, and entrepreneurs who prove that your burn doesn’t stop when the game ends—it only grows stronger.

First, we kick things off with Bill Burke, former Michigan State quarterback and Spartan alum. Bill shares how football became his identity, the highs and lows of playing under pressure, and the emotional challenges that come when the lights go out. He also reflects on powerful leadership lessons from Coach Nick Saban—moments that shaped his view of discipline, self-respect, and mental toughness. This is a raw, real conversation on rediscovering purpose beyond the field.

Next, we hear from Bryce Henson, CEO of Fit Body Boot Camp. Bryce opens up about a tough childhood, the adversity that could have broken him, and how fitness became his lifeline. From surviving to thriving, Bryce now leads one of the top fitness franchises in the country. He shares his secrets to leadership, the power of intentional focus, and why discipline is the gateway to your breakthrough.

Finally, we wrap with Mark Pancratz, former elite D1 player, coach, and Illinois Basketball Hall of Fame inductee. Mark brings the heat as he explains how he took the same drive that made him successful in basketball and applied it to family, business, and life. Now a top-performing financial advisor, Mark is proof that the competitive spirit—when guided by discipline—can build success far beyond the game.

This episode is for anyone who’s ever had to pivot, rebuild, or reignite their burn. It’s about identity, resilience, and carrying the lessons of competition into every arena of life.

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Let's work together to write YOUR next book- BNC Publishing
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