The Bible is not here to protect power – What we get wrong about ICE, Renee Good, and Romans 13

This episode is not about winning an argument. It is about people.

Jonathan and Eric wrestle with how Christians talk about authority, obedience, and scripture when real people are caught in the middle. The conversation is sparked by the killing of Renee Good during an ICE operation, and by how quickly many Christians reached for Romans 13 to shut down grief, questions, and moral discomfort.

At the center of this episode is a simple but difficult conviction: every person is made in the image of God.

We talk about how scripture gets used to protect power instead of holding it accountable, why “just comply” is not a Christian ethic, and the tension between law and justice, order and mercy, and consequences and dignity. We also name the exhaustion that comes from watching fellow believers defend systems while ignoring the human cost.

If you have ever felt like you are losing your mind watching these conversations unfold, you are not alone. If you have wondered whether there is a faithful way to care about law and borders without losing your humanity, this episode is for you.

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