Kevin and Kyle are back together on Atomic Construction after a few weeks away, and this conversation is a reminder of why they make such a strong team. Kyle shares what life has been like balancing newborn chaos at home with leading multiple high-stakes construction projects, and how he is learning that life moves in seasons. He talks about what it takes to deliver complex builds under pressure, the safety wins his team has celebrated, and why trust is the real foundation of any successful project.

Kevin opens up about the cultural challenges of scaling his own company, the lessons in leadership he is living out daily, and the balance between hitting financial goals and building a workplace people love. Together they explore the unconventional realities of building core and shell structures while designing interiors on the fly, the two-in-a-box leadership model at Leighton, and how clarity between project managers and superintendents can make or break a job.

Kyle also takes Kevin inside his Notion setup — a project operating system that centralizes roadblocks, risk logs, procurement, and leadership dashboards in one place. He explains why moving beyond spreadsheets gave him a two-hundred percent productivity boost and why a second brain is essential for managing growth and big vision.

This episode is a mix of personal updates, practical tools, and honest reflections on leadership, culture, and the future of construction.

In this episode

• Kyle on newborn life and leading major projects under pressure

• How Leighton’s two-in-the-box model keeps PMs and Supers aligned

• The importance of trust in unconventional project delivery

• Kevin’s story of transforming numbers and now rebuilding culture

• Why clarity on risk, roadblocks, and roles matters more than perfect plans

• How Kyle uses Notion as a project operating system and second brain

• Lessons on productivity, conflict resolution, and leadership in construction

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Kevin Hohe sits down with financial strategist Patrick Shurney to talk about the numbers behind building a thriving construction business. Patrick shares how understanding seven key financial metrics can transform contractors from simply working harder to actually building wealth.

Patrick explains why contractors often underperform despite high revenue, and how shifting mindset, tightening bookkeeping, and creating a clear roadmap can help business owners scale sustainably. He emphasizes the importance of knowing your numbers, having a three year plan, and seeking outside perspective to avoid blind spots.

The conversation also touches on mentorship, the realities of coaching, and the balance between execution and strategy. Patrick reminds us that success is less about grinding and more about clarity, action, and building systems that last.

In this episode

• The seven numbers every contractor needs to track

• Why most construction businesses leave profit on the table

• The role of mindset in breaking through financial ceilings

• How good bookkeeping can change the trajectory of a company

• The difference between a coach, a bookkeeper, and a fractional CFO

• Why action beats perfection when it comes to financial planning

• Patrick’s favorite client success stories and what they teach us

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In this episode of Atomic Construction, Kevin Hohe is joined by Megan Shapiro, construction attorney, partner at Rudoslavich Shapiro, and founder of Construction Contract Coach. Megan takes us through her journey from criminal law to finding her passion in construction law and why she chose to represent the trades when so many lawyers side with GCs, owners, or insurance companies.

Megan breaks down the realities of civil litigation, the pitfalls of insurance-appointed counsel, and how the system often stacks the deck against subcontractors. She also shares practical strategies for reviewing and redlining contracts, explains her OWN framework for negotiation, and makes the case for why trade contractors hold more power than they realise at the bargaining table.

This is a candid, eye-opening conversation about law, fairness, and what it takes to protect your business in a litigious industry.

Key Takeaways:

• How Megan carved out a career in construction law despite early pushback
• Why she believes most subcontractors underestimate their negotiating power
• The difference between insurance-appointed defense attorneys and true construction attorneys
• How to spot red, orange and yellow flags in contracts and use them strategically
• Why retention is one of the most harmful practices in construction
• The importance of proactive business setup, not just reacting when things go wrong
• Why treating trades as true partners is the only way forward for the industry
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Megan’s story is proof that contracts are not just paperwork, they are tools of leverage, protection and empowerment.

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