Hear about Jordy's dramatic last day on "Neighbours", and how a few chance encounters kept these two agents of chaos in touch over the years.

We somehow get into discussions about cruises, pondering the age-old question: Is it a vacation or just a floating buffet with a side of seasickness? Meanwhile, our quest to snag high-profile guests like Tom Gleeson and Dave Hughes for the podcast continues. Jordy thinks it's a lost cause, Alex still has hope.

Jordy reveals she 'got in trouble' for commenting to the Daily Mail in what could have been the pettyist display from a talent manager EVER.

Commentary on reality TV relationships and breakups ensues with Jordy thinking it is utterly BIZARRE for couples to be collaborating on a social media break up post.

We analyse manipulative behaviors in relationships, particulary those we've seen in the last few weeks of MAFS,

Finally, Alex shares her advice & encourages a healthy dose of self-awareness and reflection for potential reality show contestants.

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• We discuss the reality of being a child star after Jordy watched the Ruby Franke doco on Disney plus. We delve into the psychological impact of child stardom, touching on the struggles faced by young actors like Justin Bieber. Would you let your child pursue fame at the cost of their childhood?

• Reality TV Dynamics: We analyze the legitimacy of relationships on reality shows and the motivations behind contestants' actions. Alex has also been approached by a Tiktoker asking for advice about going on MAFS.

• Is Cameo unethical? We debate on the ethics of charging fans for personalized messages and the exploitation of vulnerable fans. Jordy shares her attempt to get a cameo from Amanda Bynes and the end result was...uncomfortable viewing.

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To merch or not to merch? That is the question of the day...Jordy refuses to produce cheap "tat" that will end up as landfill, while Alex is planning a TEMU order as we speak.

Doing things 'on the cheap' is just one of the criticisms being hurled at former MAFS contestant, Ella May Ding at present, so naturally we dissect her rise through reality TV and why we should all be rejecting hustle culture. #girlboss

It's been reported that 2025 contestant, Carina has spent around $27,000 on hair, makeup and outfits for the season. Is this a smart career investment or a diva moment? Because we respect both tbh. Do you think Channel 9/Endemol should have to foot the bill for the contestants to appear a certain way?

Jordy and Alex discuss the premiere of 'Sam Pang Tonight' and throwback to comments made by Rove on the pod last year about the future of live TV in Australia.

We reminisce on iconic Australian TVCs, where the actors are now and if they're receiving royalties. Jordy shares her experience working on ads as a younger actor and whether she'd ever get back into the game today.

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Studio Producer: Jade Murray

Links:

• Link to article on Ella May Ding
• Listen to our episode with Rove on Apple or Spotify

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