Tay to Z Episode 188: Cassandra

In this episode we chat about "Cassandra" from Taylor's album "The Tortured Poets Department: Anthology." We go into what we think about the song, and Gossip Gab goes in DEEP on who Cassandra is and why Taylor is comparing herself to the Greek Seer.

Hosts: Devin and Gab

Sound Design: Devin Johnson-Nieporent and Peter Leigh-Nilsen

Theme Song: Devin Johnson-Nieporent, Peter Leigh-Nilsen and Eric Johnson

They showed some hate on songs a lot of people like but gave reasons

They showed a lot of hate on Cassandra and I love that song but they kept me entertained

Tortured Podcast Listener Department: Devin & Hell!!

Please fire from this series the simpering "reviewer" Devin, who forgot this is a Taylor Swift themed podcast pointed at examining her work. He wasted over half the time in a totally, talk about sadly unedited whine about how he basically objects to the idea of a 31 track album (too much for his brain to process?-too bad, the album is, what it is, not what you want it to have been, so shut up & examine the song that's in question). He totally trashed the song musically, production-wise, vocally, and, strangely enough, lyrically even though he admits he couldn't be bothered to look into what it meant and didn't address one single line of the lyrics. Why are you even there...you even said you're not a full fledged Swift fan...you contributed nothing whatsoever and made the podcast gratingly unbearable so that I won't be listening to any more of your TTPD reviews. Go in the corner and listen to Shake It Up until the brainy stuff is over. At least the But Daddy I Love Him podcast was bearable in spite of his once again pointless complaints about how in his mind someone...maybe him?. needs to sit Taylor down and tell her she needs an editor because some people are just too cranky & intellectually challenged to fathom 31 songs and demand different production to keep them engaged. I and many many others consider Cassandra a song that has developed into a real favorite (after many rewarding replays, something a lot of the 2nd half of album needed to differentiate themselves) so please excuse yourself from future songs you don't care for and not waste the time in which someone else who appreciates the breadth of the entire album might have had something intelligent to say. In fact he dominated the proceedings and I wish his partner cut him off. The premier songwriter of our age crafted 31 works, all of which have merit and are worthy of examination on their own terms just as they are presented, as is, and no one cares one iota that some random uncreative dude doesn't like the serious, cohesive project she's presented as one body of work. Taylor is not perfect but pitting her taste, rationale, and artistic judgement against your cavalier personal dismissal is no contest in anyone's universe. Keep relistening to it and maybe you'll get what we've gotten after 3 months of relistening: I and many others consider TTPD a triumph, a work that will stand the test of time and not just because we're mindless uncritical Swiftie automatons. Taylor please continue to do whatever the heck YOU want to do, however you want to do it, and leave those behind who don't want to be alone for a unique ride of a lifetime. They can come to appreciate it in the rear view mirror hopefully if they reexamine it. I would ordinarily never go on the record like this but this was a truly horrible podcast.