Talking Kotlin

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  • A bimonthly podcast that covers the Kotlin programming language by JetBrains, as well as related technologies.
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  • Creator of Spring: No desire to write Java at All

    Creator of Spring: No desire to write Java at All
    Mar 27 2025

    Sebastian and Márton chat with Rod Johnson, the creator of the Spring Framework. Rod tells the story of how Spring was born more than two decades ago, and shares his recent journey of coming back to the JVM and discovering all the fun of being a newcomer to Kotlin.

    Resources:

    • Expert One-on-One J2EE Design and Development: Rod Johnson
    • Oh the Places You'll Go!
    • Shoulders of Giants: Languages Kotlin Learned From | Andrey Breslav
    • Revamping and Extending Kotlin's Type System | Ross Tate
    • Scala in 2018 Keynote | Rod Johnson
    • But Java has pattern matching! | Alejandro Serrano Mena

    Hosts:

    • Sebastian Aigner – Website | Bluesky
    • Márton Braun – Website | Bluesky

    Guest:

    • Rod Johnson – Twitter | LinkedIn

    Timeline:
    (0:00) Intro
    (0:52) The origins of Spring
    (6:40) You need a business model
    (8:21) Consistency is key
    (9:39) Sustainable open source
    (14:22) Parallels with JetBrains and Kotlin
    (15:29) Rod’s journey around the JVM
    (20:48) Shoulders of giants
    (22:34) The newcomer experience
    (24:40) LLMs write great Kotlin
    (30:34) “You can start without great pain”
    (33:32) Extension functions
    (36:15) Too much magic?
    (37:56) Rod’s feature wishlist
    (39:37) Versioning and compatibility
    (41:19) Ecosystems and interop
    (43:34) Kotlin type system evolution
    (46:27) Kotlin with Spring
    (52:24) Learning Spring with Kotlin
    (54:46) Kotlin in 5 years?
    (1:00:39) Rod’s current work
    (1:03:58) Wrap-up
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  • Building KMP Libraries: The RevenueCat Story

    Building KMP Libraries: The RevenueCat Story
    Feb 20 2025

    Sebastian and Márton discuss building KMP libraries with Jay Shortway, the author of RevenueCat’s Kotlin Multiplatform SDK for in-app purchases.

    Resources:

    • RevenueCat KMP SDK
    • How we built the RevenueCat SDK for Kotlin Multiplatform
    • Hybrid SDK Architecture at RevenueCat
    • ttypic/swift-klib-plugin on GitHub
    • RevenueCat/purchases-kmp on GitHub
    • Consider moving `Instant` and `Clock` to the standard library · Kotlin/kotlinx-datetime
    • RevenueCat openings

    Hosts:

    • Sebastian Aigner – Website | Bluesky
    • Márton Braun – Website | Bluesky

    Guest:

    • Joop Korteweg – Twitter

    Timeline:
    (0:00) Intro
    (0:44) What’s RevenueCat
    (4:00) In-app purchases are hard
    (7:22) The multiplatform SDK
    (12:44) The demand for KMP
    (16:30) Hiring and team structure
    (18:42) SDKs for any framework
    (21:27) Building on native SDKs
    (23:45) Improving iOS linking
    (24:54) The SDK is on GitHub
    (26:05) Benefits of building on native
    (28:18) Designing a common API
    (33:21) Add-on modules for SDKs
    (37:30) Instant in the standard library
    (38:04) Returning results from the API
    (39:53) API design decisions
    (44:57) Codegen opportunities
    (45:48) The best things about KMP
    (47:07) KMP improvements wishlist
    (48:28) The KMP journey
    (49:45) Wrap-up
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    52 m
  • Becoming a KMP Expert

    Becoming a KMP Expert
    Jan 23 2025
    Sebastian and Pamela discuss what it means to be an expert in Kotlin Multiplatform, with the help of a panel of experts! Learn about why it's interesting to dive deep into a certain technology, recommendations on how to learn advanced topics, and general advice on how to get the most out of using KMP.SKIEKMP libraries:whyoleg/cryptography-kotlinInteresting code to explore:JetBrains/kotlinKotlin/kotlinx-datetimeKotlin/kotlinx-ioKotlin/kotlinx.coroutinesCartesian product by Jake Get an invite!Ecosystem wishlist:wasmJs support in SQLDelightCompose Multiplatform support in MapLibreLearning resources:Kotlin Multiplatform build setup from scratch with Sebastian SellmairKEEP - Kotlin Evolution and Enhancement Process HexFormat proposal and discussion Uuid proposal and discussionMore KMP experts: Kevin Galligan BlueskyTwitter Russell Wolf GitHubTwittermultiplatform-settings Jesse Wilson GitHub Sebastian Sellmair Twitter Salomon Brys TwitterHosts: Sebastian Aigner Website Pamela Hill BlogBlueskyGuests: Jake Wharton Website John O'Reilly WebsiteKMP samples on GitHub Konstantin Tskhovrebov Mastodon Tadeas Kriz MastodonBluesky(0:00) Introductions(1:40) Why be a KMP expert?(9:14) First steps to being an expert(16:38) Respecting each platform(24:04) Libraries for KMP(27:45) Advanced learning resources(38:18) Ecosystem wishlist(43:03) Exercising your KMP skills(48:15) Shoutouts to other experts(51:34) Wrap-up
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    53 m
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