John learns the difference between further and farther, and tells us "how the sausage is made". Meanwhile, Jonnie visits a town with the strangest monument ever and gets invited to a pro wrestling event in Texas.

Plus, a conversation about skepticism, doubt, and the death of expertise.

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John preaches in a beanie and finds a luxurious toilet. Meanwhile, Jonnie almost shatters his windshield, and argues against the need for trees.

Plus, a conversation about prayer & lamentation and why it's less about changing God's mind and more about changing our mindset about God.

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John wonders if trees are weaker in the South and prepares for Y2K with his dad. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders getting a taser and thinks Groucho Marx would've loved the new "6-7" craze.

Plus, a conversation about the sins that upset humans the most, and whether they are the ones God is focused on.

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John has extreme generator FOMO as the big winter storm approaches and hopes his robot bed doesn't become self aware. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets bougie in the movie theater and tells us about the time two nuclear bombs were accidentally dropped on North Carolina.

Plus, a conversation about life, death, and the legacy we hope to leave in between.
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John flies on a private jet and gets ignored by young people. Meanwhile, Jonnie uses two high schoolers as his opening act and invents a historical new drink.

Plus, a conversation about Rage Bait and why politics can never bring us true freedom.

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John listens to one of his daughter's favorite podcasts and ponders why someone would want to buy Hitler's old car.

Meanwhile, Jonnie resolves to be mediocre in 2026 and tells us how both President Bushes had embarrassing moments exactly 10 years apart.

Plus, a conversation about not losing hope when a season of life ends, and the importance of trusting God.

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John finally gets into reading fiction, but hates it when the movie ends different than the book. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets a random Venmo from a listener who is trying to keep him out of jail and tells the story of the time left-handed polo players got banned.

Plus, a conversation about vices, neighbors, and the advantages of failing in private.

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John brings glowsticks to church and the crowd goes wild. Meanwhile, Jonnie rides in the back of a truck in January with a 300 lb television and tells the tale of Grandfather Frost.

Plus, a conversation about the dangers in striving for greatness and why we’re really happiest when we make our life about other people.

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