In today’s episode, Ben summarises the second quarter of 2025, the pace of market activity and the volume of advertised roles.

He discusses the differences between the Australian and New Zealand markets in this quarter, who he believes is hiring in volume at the moment, and what the market sentiment looks like as we head into Q3.

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In this week’s episode of the Talent Hub Talk podcast, we’re joined by Chris Nugent and Clancy Brodrick, who discuss their backgrounds, the formation of their consulting firm We Lead Out, and the impact of AI on the consulting industry.

They explore how their experiences shaped their approach to consulting, the importance of adaptability, and the role of AI in streamlining processes. The discussion also touches on the future of consulting skills and the evolving landscape of recruitment in an AI-driven world. In this conversation, Chris and Clancy discuss the evolution of System Partners, and the impact of AI on the workforce. They emphasise the importance of adapting to new technologies, mastering prompt engineering, and the evolving roles of humans in an AI-driven world.

The discussion also addresses the need for specialisation in AI solutions and the vision for building a sustainable business that values human interaction and collaboration. Make sure you’re following Chris and Clancy here:

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In this conversation, Dan Godden shares his unique journey into the Salesforce ecosystem, transitioning from a primary school teacher and pastor to a change management specialist. He discusses the importance of change management in technology adoption, the challenges faced in the Salesforce ecosystem, and the common pitfalls that lead to poor user adoption.

Dan emphasises the need for a people-centric approach in technology implementations and the significance of understanding user resistance to change. He also shares horror stories of failed adoptions and highlights the importance of building trust and communication during digital transformations.

Dan Godden also discusses the crucial role of early change management in organisational transformations, advocating for a proactive approach to change rather than reactive measures. He talks about his company, SolveSimple, which aims to simplify work processes and enhance user experience within the Salesforce ecosystem.

Dan highlights the importance of empowering platform leaders with the necessary skills to navigate the evolving landscape of technology, particularly in the context of AI. He stresses the need for human connection and empathy in the workplace, especially as AI becomes more prevalent, and encourages professionals to focus on their unique human skills that cannot be replicated by machines.

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https://solvesimple.au/

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