Ben and Scott have a wide-ranging conversation that touches on identity, career challenges, communication history, and the value of authenticity in podcasting. Their natural dynamic showcases why they started recording these talks in the first place.

• Discussing the origins of their podcast and reintroducing themselves to new listeners
• Ben shares his career uncertainties while studying forestry and seeking part-time work
• Examining the unique appeal of "roots podcasting" without fancy production
• Pondering how people found each other before modern communication technology
• Reflecting on a book from a deceased friend and how many brilliant creative works go unrecognized
• Embracing the podcast's 40-minute time limit as a feature that sets them apart

If you enjoy our conversations, you can find us on all major podcast platforms. Listen for our natural, unscripted discussions that end when our time runs out - sometimes mid-sentence!

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Father and son navigate childhood memories, family dynamics, and philosophical questions in this meandering conversation that reveals surprising vulnerability and humor.

• Discussing how dad actually listened to their entire previous podcast episode rather than skipping through it
• Reminiscing about broken garage windows, including the time a rock was thrown "on purpose" to miss someone's head
• Exploring lunch routines and preferences, from microwaved eggs to grilled cheese sandwiches with croutons
• Unpacking an unexpected definition of love as the moment you start "worrying" about another person
• Revealing the existence of "The I Hate Ben Club," a childhood organization with secret documents
• Attempting to differentiate between charisma and charm while acknowledging limited knowledge on the topic
• Sharing insights about microphone techniques and the art of background vocals
• Self-aware commentary on podcast culture and the tendency to speak authoritatively on unfamiliar topics

Get out there everybody and find people to worry about, because that's what life is all about.

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Ben and Scott explore profound life lessons through everyday experiences, from psychedelic insights at the beach to emergency medical situations in the backcountry.

• Ben shares the story of an octopus sticker creatively placed on his laptop
• Discussion of how people perceive and interact with psychedelics in different settings
• Ben recounts a transformative psilocybin experience while backpacking on the Olympic coast
• Detailed story of severely cutting his knee while searching for his girlfriend's phone
• Ben describes passing out and the disorienting experience of regaining consciousness
• Getting stitches and reflecting on the irony of learning to "let yourself be caught" right before needing help
• Conversation about the nature of wisdom and holding paradoxical truths
• Exploration of how busyness is often a judgment rather than an objective state
• Reflections on motivation, time management, and accepting our limitations

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