In this moving episode, Rebecca and Gunnar dive into D&C 77–80, drawing connections between missionary work, personal sacrifice, and spiritual maturity. They reflect on Joseph Smith’s questions about Revelation and how seeking divine answers is an act of faith, not doubt. Through discussions of Newel K. Whitney’s consecrated wealth and Jared Carter’s repeated missionary service, they highlight how commitment to the Lord’s work often comes with a cost—but also with sweetness. The hosts also share deeply personal stories about how trying to say “yes” to God changes us. Listeners are reminded that while the Lord may not give us easy paths, He does promise to “lead you along.”

Note: We had a few technical hiccups this week that affected Rebecca’s audio and video quality. Thanks for your patience—we promise the conversation is still worth it!

What happens when you realize that heaven isn’t “us vs. them”—but instead, a loving invitation to grow into all that God is? Rebecca and Gunnar examine that question through the lens of Doctrine and Covenants 76. They explore how this vision opened a broader, more hopeful understanding of God’s plan and shattered old, judgmental traditions. Along the way, they share stories of friends who demanded high standards, the experience of confronting personal pride, and what it means to strive for exaltation—not just salvation. A personal poem and an inspiring song from Brother Joseph help frame the emotional and spiritual power of this conversation.

Rebecca and Gunnar discuss Doctrine & Covenants 70–75 with a focus on the tragic story of Ezra Booth—the Church’s first vocal dissenter. They explore the cost of discipleship, the danger of offense, and how Booth’s jealousy and unmet expectations led to spiritual ruin. Along the way, they draw parallels to modern faith struggles and share powerful insights on revelation, humility, and enduring to the end. The episode includes personal conversion stories and a musical excerpt from the upcoming Brother Joseph musical.

Rebecca and Gunnar discuss the imperfect process of learning, trusting, and growing into discipleship. Through personal stories and thoughtful reflections on D&C 67–70, they examine what it means to be spiritually “worthy,” why companionship strengthens faith, and how God consecrates even our flawed efforts. With warmth and vulnerability, they invite listeners to abandon toxic perfectionism and embrace a relationship with Christ based on love, trust, and grace.

Rebecca and Gunnar discuss the hard but holy path of choosing compassion in the face of offense, hurt, and betrayal. With insights from Doctrine and Covenants 64–66 and a powerful original song, they explore how forgiveness is not about forgetting or enabling abuse, but about seeing others through the eyes of Christ. The conversation includes practical tools for creating boundaries and emotional safety, even while extending love and grace.

Rebecca and Gunnar discuss what it means to move forward in faith, even when we feel unsure, underprepared, or misunderstood. Drawing on sections 60–63 of the Doctrine and Covenants, they explore how God’s instructions to the early Saints parallel our own journeys: developing our spiritual gifts, learning through trial and error, and exercising compassion even in rejection. With insights into missionary work, prophetic authority, and personal revelation, they invite listeners to reflect on how humility and perseverance shape discipleship. The heart of the episode is clear: Zion is built not by the flawless, but by the faithful.