Steven Seagal

Among the action stars of the 1990s, Steven Seagal's rise to fame and subsequent descent into infamy has been the most baffling. How was this man able to have a career in the first place? Who thought that giving a pathological liar money, power and a platform was a good idea (spoiler: Michael Ovitz did)? The inexplicability of it all prompts Grace to wonder: were we all just dumber in the 1990s?

Enjoy this spirited conversation about the innate power of being tall and white, prompted by the most god-awful wine commercial of all time.

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