Jeff Gordon joins Stacking Pennies to talk about what actually makes great drivers great, how Jimmie Johnson pushed him to evolve, why Hendrick got stronger when it stopped working in silos, what Darlington really feels like, and why sprint car talent doesn’t automatically translate to NASCAR. Plus Corey Day, the modern driver pipeline, Jeff’s career recalibration, and a few unreal stories from one of the legends of the sport.

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Corey’s back, the baby is here, and the first question had to be asked: did ChatGPT name it? From there, the guys get into why Denny Hamlin keeps winning, what McLaren actually broke, why Vegas pit road catches so many drivers out, and what’s really going on with the Gabehart/Spire situation. Plus IndyCar, Mexico trucks, Darlington picks, and more from a wild week in racing.

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Corey’s out for a big reason this week, so Skip carries the show and breaks down a loaded weekend in racing. Blaney survives Phoenix, IndyCar puts on a show, F1 sparks a bigger conversation, and the episode ends with the racing memory that still drives it all. Plus pit-road truth, grassroots racing, and why the best teams are always living a little uncomfortable.

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