The Userlist team is undertaking their next big project. The Pirate family spends a nice vacation at the cabin.

Keeping up with their quarterly planning, Benedikt and the Userlist team have decided on their big project for the second quarter: the UI redesign. Feeling excited and a bit nervous about the project, Benedikt hopes that doing it in phases will keep it from exploding into a huge project.

Benedicte and her Pirate family spent a nice vacation at the cabin during Easter and also doing some maintenance work. Work wise, the team at Outseta is currently doing paid search experiments to track where first touch referrals are coming from. Benedicte and Ola are also planning to do interviews with potential customers for Galleon.

Mentioned in the episode:

• Why you should stop coding your way to failure
• Treasure | Stop Motion Movie by Lillian Raae-Vea

Benedikt and Benedicte share how they’re leveraging AI to help with their current projects.

For their Galleon Gateway project, Benedicte’s been working with Claude to come up with a Laravel implementation that she can feed to Cursor. While it’s going well for a couple of her projects, here’s one thing that AI can’t help with just yet: time zone bugs.

Benedikt gave AI another try to help with the revamp of their Python library. While it turned out nice after a lot of revisions, he also ended up reading Python documentation to write better prompts. They’ve also just beta launched their transactional emails at Userlist.

Benedicte and Benedikt also talk about AI overviews, April Fool’s pranks, and more.

Benedicte and Benedikt talk about vibe coding and more.

Recently named one of Norway’s Leading Women in Tech for 2025, Benedicte feels honored and realizes the importance of having role models in your life. And despite feeling scattered these past weeks, she’s getting to know the API katas for Outseta and was also able to deploy the first version of the script for Galleon Attributes.

Benedikt and the Userlist team are still wrapping up their transactional email endpoint. And in the process of making the documentation for this, they ended up rewriting and rebuilding their entire API documentation.

Benedicte and Benedikt talk about the cons of vibe coding, what you should actually use AI for, and more.

Mentioned in the episode:

• Norway’s 50 Leading Women in Tech 2025
• Watch the Benedicte’s video for Norway’s 50 Leading Women in Tech 2025
• Vibe coding takes a hit
• Galleon Attributes script V1