Beloved and acclaimed author, poet, and playwright Carol Lynn Pearson talks about the diaries she has kept for some seventy years—and why she decided to publish them. Speaking with Signature Books director Barbara Jones Brown, Pearson shares her personal experiences from the 1950s to the 1980s that made her a feminist, activist, and LGBTQ ally.

Pearson describes herself as a troublemaker and a problem solver. A fourth-generation Latter-day Saint who grew up in Utah and now lives in California, she loves the church that taught her courage enough to challenge harmful concepts, even those of her own community. Her first collection of poems, Beginnings, sold more than 150,000 copies, followed by numerous books, lyrics, and stage plays. Her 1986 bestseller, Goodbye, I Love You, tells of her marriage to Gerald Pearson—a gay man—and their eventual divorce and her caring for him in her home as he died from AIDS. The profound impact of this story marked a turning point in the national perception of the gay community.

Join author Andrew Kimball and editorial manager John Hatch as they bring to life the dramatic and deeply human stories behind one of Mormonism’s most prominent families—the descendants of Heber C. Kimball. From Helen Mar Kimball Whitney’s heartbreaking losses, to J. Golden Kimball’s candid self-doubt beneath his famously irreverent wit, Andrew Kimball’s new book, The Blood in Their Veins: The Kimballs, Polygamy, and the Shaping of Mormonism reveals the complexity, faith, and fragility at the heart of Latter-day Saint history. Historian Richard L. Bushman compliments Andrew Kimball as “a master storyteller.” This episode offers a powerful glimpse into why.

After earning a PhD in literature from Harvard University, Andrew Kimball spent his career in the financial industry, including as executive vice president of Moody’s Corporation. He coauthored the popular biography of his grandfather, Spencer W. Kimball: The Twelfth President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He and his wife, Kathryn, have six children and live in New York City.

Today we turn the tables on popular podcast hosts Susan Hinckley and Cynthia Winward to interview them about their new book, At Last She Said It: Honest Conversations About Faith, Church, And Everything in Between. You may be familiar with their At Last She Said It podcast, and how for the past five years they have helped listeners grappling with their faith within and without the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Their podcast has been a soft place to land for many, helping listeners know they are not alone. Signature’s Beth Brumer Reeve explores how Hinckley and Winward are even more vulnerable in their book and how their stories help anyone trying to navigate what can be a fraught journey within a high-demand and patriarchal religion.

SUSAN M. HINCKLEY is a storyteller in words and pictures. A longtime exhibitor with the American Craft Council, her art is held in private collections across the U.S. She’ll travel any distance for good green chile or a glimpse of her grandkids, splitting her time between the southwest and midwest. Wherever she is, her heart roams the desert—preferably in a fast convertible.

CYNTHIA WINWARD makes her home in Provo, Utah although she will always be a California girl. Before pouring all her creative energy into the At Last She Said It podcast, she was the owner of an online embroidery business. Her kitchen is her happy place where she enjoys making the world's greatest red chile enchiladas. She is enjoying the good life as an empty nester with her husband Paul.

Find them online on Instagram @atlastshesaidit