Ben's got an updated edition of his book, Responsive Web Design with HTML5 and CSS, to chat about as well as how much AI is being inserted into writing, layers, scope, color contrast vs contrast color, shouldn't AI bots pay for data they slurp, iFrames permissions issues in Chrome, anchor positioning, and where have all the bloggers gone?

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I write web development books, make online courses, and publish YouTube videos.

• Ben Frain – author and web developer
• Responsive Web Design with HTML5 and CSS available at Amazon
• benfrain (GitHub)
• Ben Frain - YouTube
• JavaScript for Everyone - Piccalilli
• BCD Watch

Todd Libby is on the show to talk with us about deceptive patterns on the web, what WCAG is and who it's for, and 5 deceptive patterns in use on the web today.

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Web developer and developer advocate from Portland, Maine now living in Phoenix, Arizona. I had been a developer for most of my 25 years professionally in tech before moving to accessibility.

• Front End Nerdery
• Trump used dark patterns to trick supporters into donating millions more than intended | The Verge
• Death to Bullshit | Brad Frost
• Deceptive Patterns (aka Dark Patterns) - spreading awareness since 2010
• The Architecture of Anxiety and Shame, Part One

Who's the person to hire when your home network isn't working as reliably as it should? And while we're at it - can you also fix Dave's Find My notifications? What's the plan with Firefox in 2025? And Dave blogs (and mouth blogs) about his struggles with the MVP car.

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• Why I hate the MVP car - daverupert.com
• TalkShop Show w/ Macho Man Randy Standards - Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Web Development, Neat - Episode 212

Listener questions about CSS ruby-position, crafting adaptive layouts using a responsive component, what keeps Chris motivated to work on CodePen, why are there no positive issues on GitHub., tech support in the age of AI, and a semi-regular segment of inbox therapy.

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• Crafting adaptive layouts using a responsive component | by Michael Trilford | Bootcamp | Medium
• CodePen Radio – CodePen
• Introduction - Tree-sitter
• Design for Community: The Art of Connecting Real People in Virtual Places

Dave and Chris discuss the release of Safari in iOS26, the aesthetics of Liquid Glass in CSS, the importance of material design, and the role of TypeScript in modern web development. The conversation also touches on when to consider rebuilding a tech stack, the significance of user experience, and how to know when to choose a new tech stack.

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• Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content
• Syntax - Web Development Podcast
• Theo - t3․gg - YouTube
• Gina Trapani
• Foursight
• Omakub — An Omakase Developer Setup for Ubuntu 24.04+ by DHH

Dave's got a Whiskey related content warning, recent security vulnerabilities in NPM, challenges with password management, and the complexities of digital security. They delve into Google's antitrust issues and the dynamics of the browser market, before transitioning to innovations in CSS, including custom properties and functions. The conversation wraps up with thoughts on the future of CSS and web development.

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• Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Web Development, Neat
• Storybook: Frontend workshop for UI development
• Largest NPM Compromise in History - Supply Chain Attack : r/programming
• We all dodged a bullet - Xe Iaso
• Post by @cabel.panic.com — Bluesky
• Special: One on One with a Hacker – ShopTalk
• 1Password Watchtower
• This 25-minute video is the most riveting sudoku puzzle you will ever watch | The Verge
• Many years on the job and I still don't get it. - daverupert.com
• if() - CSS | MDN
• CSS at-rule functions - CSS | MDN
• CSS color-scheme-dependent colors with light-dark() – Bram.us
• Matthias Ott

Chris is updating us on the progress of his CSS reset, thoughts on The Browser Company and Arc being bought by Atlassian, and in 2025 why would anyone build a website?

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• Bend Old-Time Jams and Events
• Join or Die
• Join or Die on Netflix
• Bowling Alone - Wikipedia
• Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott on the Birth of the Agentic Web - The Verge
• Chris' CSS Starter

A quick update on Dave's hair, CSS random(), view transitions in CSS, thinking about IDs in HTML, opening details elements in a new tab, Chris tries out Edge, Shift, Zen and more, how Dave is trying to kick his YouTube tab habit, and government design fails.

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• Monchhichi - Wikipedia
• Rolling the Dice with CSS random() | WebKit
• Cyd Stumpel | Portfolio Cyd Stumpel
• Get to know Microsoft Edge on Mac | Microsoft Edge
• Download Firefox for Desktop — from Mozilla
• Zen Browser
• Shift Browser | Drag and Drop. Build Your Custom Browser
• Kagi Search - A Premium Search Engine
• Limiting YouTube to a Single Tab - daverupert.com
• America by Design Fail
• 18F - Wikipedia