The Twilight Sad are a Scottish indie rock band, currently consisting of Andy MacFarlane and frontman James Graham who joins me this episode to discuss their new album “It’s The Long Goodbye”. It’s an appropriate title, as the album documents the loss of James’ mother to a 9 year battle with dementia. On top of this James has been battling serious mental health challenges. It’s a heartbreaking record at times, but also cathartic and energetic.

I was really grateful for James’ candour and bravery really in talking to me about the background to this album. We also discussed life on the road with The Cure, who the band have spent a lot of time touring with over the years; Robert Smith appears on several tracks on this new album in fact.

“It’s The Long Goodbye” is out on March 27th on Mogwai’s Rock Action Records.

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This episode I am joined by two-time Academy Award nominee, film editor Pamela Martin. She edited the recent Springsteen biopic “Deliver Me From Nowhere”. The film was directed Scott Cooper, adapted from Warren Zanes’ book documenting the making of Springsteen’s stark classic “Nebraska”. Pam has worked on movies including King Richard, Little Miss Sunshine, Battle Of The Sexes, Free State Of Jones, Hitchcock, and many more.

If you’re listening to this as a Springsteen fan I think you’ll find it fascinating, but even if you’re interested more broadly in film making, I think this is the first time I’ve had an editor on the show, so it was interesting for me to learn more about the parameters and responsibilities of the role, and Pamela was fantastic company and had so much to say. Her passion for her work really comes through. I hope you enjoy it. I certainly did.

I also give a run-down of my favourite albums and events of the year.

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In February 2025 at the 40 Watt Club in Athens, Georgia, something incredible happened. Jason Narducy, alongside actor Michael Shannon, were out touring their R.E.M. tribute project, where they perform early albums in full, alongside deep cuts from the back catalogue, when all 4 original members of R.E.M joined them to perform a version of “Pretty Persuasion”. Over the past couple of years various configurations of band members had performed with them, but having all 4 at once was clearly a historic moment.

Jason’s life in music has been quite something. Jason had a musical epiphany when, aged 8, his dad took him to see The Who movie “The Kids Are Alright”. He got an electric guitar aged 9, and by aged 10 he was playing in a punk band named Verboten. Tracey, was the oldest member of the band, aged 13, and just happened to be cousin of future Nirvana drummer and Foo Fighters frontman Dave Grohl. Dave would later cite Verboten as a major inspiration for him in pursuing music, and Jason appeared in Dave’s “Sonic Highways” series.

Jason has gone on to perform with so many artists, but he’s been a mainstay of Bob Mould’s band since 2005, playing bass on 6 albums and touring with him. Jason also plays with bands such as Sunny Day Real Estate and Superchunk. He has his own musical project entitled Split Single, and plays intimate living room shows for fans. A few years ago he had the surreal experience of writing songs for a musical about his childhood band Verboten.

As well as upcoming gigs with Bob Mould, Jason is heading back out on tour with Michael Shannon to perform R.E.M’s brilliant 4th album, “Life’s Rich Pageant”.

It’s no surprise we had a lot to talk about.

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