In this episode of Sales [UN]Training, Kelly Riggs sits down with Steven Rosen, author of Focused: A Leadership Discipline for Sales Managers Under Pressure, to tackle one of the biggest frustrations in sales leadership—why training so often fails to produce results.

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Kelly Riggs opens with a hard truth: most sales managers are overwhelmed, undertrained, and pulled in too many directions to focus on what actually drives performance. Steven builds on that idea by explaining how lack of focus—not lack of effort—is the real issue holding teams back.

The conversation highlights a critical flaw in most organizations: sales training is treated as an event instead of a system. Without reinforcement, coaching, and accountability, even the best training quickly fades. Kelly emphasizes that leaders who fail to reinforce training are essentially wasting their investment.

Steven also breaks down the danger of "hero managers"—those who step in to close deals instead of developing their people. While it may feel productive in the moment, it ultimately creates dependent teams that can't perform without constant intervention.

Another key theme is the idea of "exposure vs. mastery." Too many organizations mistake introducing a concept for actually building skill, skipping the repetition and practice required for real improvement.

Finally, the episode explores the power of focus through Steven's "Three Things" framework, helping sales leaders prioritize what truly matters in a high-pressure environment.

If you're a sales leader looking to improve performance, build stronger teams, and stop wasting time on ineffective training, this episode delivers a clear path forward.

Kelly Riggs is an author, speaker, and business consultant for executives and companies throughout the United States and Canada. He has written two books: 1-on-1 Management: What Every Great Manager Knows That You Don't and Quit Whining and Start SELLING! A Step-by-Step Guide to a Hall of Fame Career in Sales.

Get more Kelly: www.BizLockerRoom.com.

Widely recognized as a powerful speaker and performance coach in the areas of sales, management leadership, and strategic planning, Kelly is a former sales executive, a two-time national Salesperson-of-the-Year, a business owner, and a member of the Forbes' Coaches Council since 2019.

Music and Editing by Pod About It Productions @dougbranson

In this episode of Sales [UN]Training, Kelly sits down with Adam Boyd to challenge one of the most common beliefs in sales: that teams struggle because they can't close. The reality is far more complex—and far more fixable.

Kelly opens the conversation by exposing a hard truth: most "closing problems" are actually symptoms of deeper breakdowns earlier in the sales process. From weak discovery to poor qualification, sales teams often fail to uncover what truly matters to the buyer. When that happens, deals stall, objections rise, and price becomes the only remaining lever.

Adam expands on this by explaining how discounting is often a signal—not a solution. When salespeople haven't built a compelling reason to buy, they default to cutting price, eroding both margin and perceived value. The discussion also highlights how many reps ask too few questions, miss key stakeholders, and fail to understand risk from the buyer's perspective. The conversation then shifts to talent and leadership. Adam makes the case that training alone won't fix performance issues if the underlying talent isn't there. Kelly reinforces this by pointing out the critical role of coaching, noting that even the best training fails without strong sales leadership. Finally, they tackle the importance of process—why hiring better people won't help if there isn't a clear, consistent system for execution.

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Kelly Riggs is an author, speaker, and business consultant for executives and companies throughout the United States and Canada. He has written two books: 1-on-1 Management: What Every Great Manager Knows That You Don't and Quit Whining and Start SELLING! A Step-by-Step Guide to a Hall of Fame Career in Sales.

Get more Kelly: www.BizLockerRoom.com.

Widely recognized as a powerful speaker and performance coach in the areas of sales, management leadership, and strategic planning, Kelly is a former sales executive, a two-time national Salesperson-of-the-Year, a business owner, and a member of the Forbes' Coaches Council since 2019.

Music and Editing by Pod About It Productions @dougbranson

On this episode of Sales [UN]Training, Kelly Riggs sits down with influence and buyer-psychology expert Robin Burr explore why traditional sales tactics often fail.

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Many sales professionals rely on product knowledge, statistics, and persuasive arguments to win deals. But as Kelly and Robin explain, the real barrier in most sales conversations isn't information—it's human psychology. Buyers resist change, protect their identity, and often reject ideas when they feel pressured or "sold."

In this conversation, Robin explains why the first sale is not the product or service—it's helping the buyer decide that change is necessary in the first place. When salespeople skip that step and push features or logic, they often create resistance that shows up later as objections.

Kelly and Robin also unpack why many sales teams unintentionally sabotage themselves. From overloading prospects with information to relying on scripts and closing tactics, salespeople frequently treat symptoms rather than addressing the root causes of buyer hesitation.

You'll also hear Robin break down his PERFECT objection framework, which focuses on prevention, exploration, reframing, facilitation, empathy, closing, and transition—an approach designed to resolve concerns without turning the conversation into a debate.

If you lead a sales team or carry a quota yourself, this episode will challenge how you think about persuasion, objections, and the real drivers behind buyer decisions.

Kelly Riggs is an author, speaker, and business consultant for executives and companies throughout the United States and Canada. He has written two books: 1-on-1 Management: What Every Great Manager Knows That You Don't and Quit Whining and Start SELLING! A Step-by-Step Guide to a Hall of Fame Career in Sales.

Get more Kelly: www.BizLockerRoom.com.

Widely recognized as a powerful speaker and performance coach in the areas of sales, management leadership, and strategic planning, Kelly is a former sales executive, a two-time national Salesperson-of-the-Year, a business owner, and a member of the Forbes' Coaches Council since 2019.

Music and Editing by Pod About It Productions @dougbranson