S1E5 - Holy Listening: Walking Through Grief with a Spiritual Director - Part 1

Juana introduces her spiritual director, Laura Baber, the author of Rhythms of Restoration and a retired United Methodist deacon with more than 25 years of experience walking alongside people through grief and life transitions. Together, they explore what spiritual direction actually is — and how it differs from therapy. Laura describes the work as "holy listening," helping people find God's movement in their lives rather than fixing their pain. The conversation moves into the dark night of the soul, the lost art of lament, and what healing looks like when the faith practices that once sustained us no longer work after loss. Juana reflects on how her own theology of God has shifted since losing her mother — and how spiritual direction has helped her see God showing up in new and unexpected ways.

Produced by Wesley's Revival, a ministry of Studio Wesley.