In this conversation, Curtis and Chris discuss the last moments of Michal's life and the topic of heaven. Curtis shares his experience of being with Michal in the hospital and witnessing her final breath. He reflects on the doubts and questions that arose in his mind about the reality of heaven and the assurance of his faith.

Chris provides biblical insights about the limited information the scriptures provide about heaven and the unspeakable joy that awaits believers.

They share personal stories of loved ones who had similar experiences before passing away and the comfort and peace they found in those moments.

Curtis reflects on Michal's attitude and how she faced her illness fearlessly, providing a blueprint for grief and hope.

The duo also discuss the importance of preparing children for life's challenges and the value of experiencing hard things.

Curtis shares the powerful story of the funeral and how they made it a celebration of Michal's life by making a bold last-minute move that was nothing short of controversial.

They end with a reminder of the hope of heaven and the assurance that Jesus is preparing a place for believers.

3:00-The Final Moments Before Michal Graduated to Heaven

9:00-Wrestling with Faith & Seeking Assurance of Heaven in Times of Loss

18:30-The Gift of Moments of Clarity Before Death

20:30- An Attitude of Accepting Hard Things

27:30- Moments After with The Body & The List of Last’s

32:30- Honoring Michal in Preparing For The Funeral

39:30 Funny & Normal Life That Still Happens Even at a Funeral

41:30- The Bold & Impulsive Grave Site Decision to Honor Michal

45:30- The Hope of Heaven

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Join Curtis and Chris in a heartfelt discussion on preparing for grief and navigating the emotions surrounding the final ten days in the hospital. This episode covers the rapid escalation of Michal's condition, the points of preparation, and the prayers and community that surrounded them. Curtis shares his journey of coping with unanswered prayers and finding purpose in grief, emphasizing the importance of recognizing individual paths to healing and finding comfort in God's faithfulness.

Reflecting on his evolving understanding of grief, Curtis shares how Michal's fearlessness in facing death transformed his and the kids perspective, further solidifying why death should have no grip on the Christian. As Curtis recalls the final moments before Michal's passing, he emphasizes the significance of having a relationship with God and embracing the eternal perspective. While acknowledging that grief holds no easy answers, he encourages listeners to find solace in the hope of eternity and the belief that this world is not our final home.

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3:30- Hesitation for Treatment and God’s Clear Direction

8:00- The Beginning of the Last 10 Days of Michal’s Life

23:40- Is There a Right Way to Grieve?

31:30- Saying the Things While Someone Is Still Here

34:29- The Moment Preparing For Grief Becomes Reality

40:20- Fearlessness & Faithfulness in the Face of Death

51:00- The Hard Decisions of When to Turn Off the Machines

55:00- The Practicality of Death Not Seen in the Movies

58:20- Compelling Questions Michal asks in the Final Days.

101:30- Forgiveness & Preparing for Heaven

110:00- Scriptures Describing Heaven

115:30- The Final Day

119:40- The Blueprint Michal Left For Us Here on Earth

124:30- Closing Perspective on Grief

In this episode, Chris delves into Curtis's transformative journey through divorce and the challenges he faced from isolation before he met Michal. Curtis recounts his unlikely connection with Michal, detailing how he felt a divine nudge to send a message of prayer despite his initial hesitation. This act of obedience sparked a meaningful conversation, leading to intrigue and a period of one- sided interest for a relationship.

Curtis highlights several profound “God moments” that proved God’s perfect timing and promises for a new and brighter future in bringing beauty from the ashes.

00:00- Chris’s Embarrassing Admission

07:30- The Struggle of Telling Peers You’ve Been Divorced

13:00- The Challenge to Make a List

18:00- How to Pull a Friend out of Isolation

26:00- Obeying God’s Promptings

35:30- Getting caught in the “Friend Zone”

41:00 - The “Dear John Letter”

48:30 - Trusting God’s Timing For a New Beginning

55:30- Bonus Audio of Michal’s Facebook Message about Divorce