Episodios

  • S04E08 Ego-System vs Eco-System Leadership, with Reggy-Charles Degen
    Jul 18 2025

    “I'm always surprised that nobody seems to be worried that we're investing since 70, 80 years, huge amounts of money in training and development, leadership courses... And despite that, we only have... 23% engaged employees around the world, 11% if you go to Europe... So either managers are stupid, or they do it on purpose, or we don't give them what they need... The managers... the ones that I thought were losing a lot of impact, were most of the time, ego-system driven... Those guys, however good they were, systematically got less than the managers... who were... actually putting the employee at the centre, looking for empowerment... the eco-system ones, the respectful, the servant leader kind of ones...”

    S04E08 of the Rethink Culture podcast shines the spotlight on Reggy-Charles Degen to explore the intersection of HR, leadership, and scalable frameworks for people success. Reggy is the founder of Q7Leader, a professor at Solvay Business School in Brussels, and author of The People Model Canvas. With over 20 years in international HR and 12 years as an entrepreneur in HR tech, Reggy shares how his legal and academic background shaped his mission to bridge the gap between managers and employees. He introduces the seven dimensions of the People Model Canvas, explains why HR must evolve from theory to engineering, and challenges traditional views on leadership, performance, and culture. This episode is a masterclass in rethinking how organizations support their people.

    📢 Do you want to build a high-performance culture? It all starts here: www.rethinkculture.co

    Production, video, and audio editing by Evangelia Alexaki of Musicove Productions.

    Listen to this episode to discover:
    • Why HR needs an engineering mindset, not just empathy
    • The 7 core elements every HR system must include
    • How the People Model Canvas helps managers scale support
    • Why competence is the true asset of an organization in the age of rapid change and AI
    • The difference between ego- and eco-system leadership
    • Why performance enablement beats performance evaluation
    • How to equip managers with simple, scalable frameworks
    • Why HR must prove value in attracting, developing, and retaining talent
    • How open-source tools can democratize great HR practices
    • Why HR must master the basics before leading culture work

    Further resources:
    • The Q7Leader Website: https://www.q7leader.com/
    • Reggy-Charles on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rdegen
    • People Model Canvas: https://www.peoplemodelcanvas.com/

    Chapters:
    00:00 — Introduction to Reggy-Charles Degen
    01:58 — Reggy’s journey from law to HR
    03:18 — Transitioning from HR to entrepreneurship
    05:16 — Why HR fails to support managers effectively
    06:53 — Overview of the People Model Canvas
    10:41 — Aha moments from using the framework
    12:25 — Lessons from building the model over 12 years
    13:58 — How HR professionals can use the Canvas
    16:12 — Leadership mistakes and best practices
    18:17 — Ego-system vs eco-system leadership
    21:13 — The undervalued role of HR in strategy
    24:54 — HR vs culture: where the lines blur
    27:57 — Why managers need frameworks to scale
    31:33 — What students thank Reggy for
    35:13 — What Reggy had to rethink personally
    37:00 — What's stopping Reggy from the best work of his life
    38:36 — What CEOs should hear about people-first leadership

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  • Culture Classics: A Culture of Caring, Not Popcorn, with Garry Ridge
    Jul 11 2025

    "Culture is not about popcorn, peanuts, ping pong. It's about having a heart of gold and a backbone of steel... Be a caring organization... It's a balance between being tough minded and tenderhearted... It's simple, it's not easy, and time is not your friend."

    We're republishing one of our "Culture Classics" featuring Garry Ridge. Garry is a “champion-of-hope” leader and has defined culture at the WD-40 Company for an impressive 35 years, where he is currently serving as Chairman Emeritus. As the founder of The Learning Moment and an executive coach, Garry has dedicated his career to making the world a happier place by consulting leaders on how to create caring organizations.

    There is so much to unpack in this episode. Get ready to be inspired and acquire valuable knowledge from one of the industry's most respected leaders.

    📢 Do you want to build a high-performance culture? It all starts here: www.rethinkculture.co

    Production, video, and audio editing by Evangelia Alexaki of Musicove Productions.

    Listen to this episode to discover:
    · The ingredients that should go into the Petri Dish of Culture

    · Who is The Soul-Sucking CEO of Fear Inc

    · The Four Pillars of Care

    · What is The Learning Moment

    · What are The Habits of a Servant Leader

    · Garry's four values: Hope, Harmony, Optimism, and Confidence

    · The influence of Garry’s Dad, Mom and his employer Mr. Lambert

    · Why we should rename HR into Culture & Capabilities

    · The tribal culture of WD-40


    Further resources:

    · Garry’s Website: thelearningmoment.net

    · Garry Ridge on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/garryridge/

    · The One Minute Manager, by Dr. Ken Blanchard

    · Helping People Win at Work, by Garry Ridge and Ken Blanchard

    · Multipliers, by Liz Wiseman

    · All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten, by Robert Fulghum

    · To Be Honest, by Ron A. Carucci

    · What Got You Here Won't Get You There, by Marshall Goldsmith

    · The Song of Significance, by Seth Godin

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  • S04E07 Flat Pay, Full Ownership: A People-First Approach to Workplace Culture, with Geoff Roberts
    Jul 4 2025

    “A huge catalyst for growth, a huge accelerant, a huge way to improve the business on every dimension is to be a more people-oriented company… The more you support people and the things they want to do with their lives outside of work, the more people are going to cherish the relationship with their employer, the more loyal they're going to be, the harder they're going to work. It becomes this symbiotic harmonious relationship that makes the employee's life better, it makes the business more successful... Stop looking at your employees as a resource that you need to extract as much value out of as possible.”

    S04E07 of the Rethink Culture podcast shines the spotlight on Geoff Roberts, co-founder of Outseta, an all-in-one membership platform and a company that puts people first. In this episode, Geoff shares how Outseta’s unconventional approach to compensation, equity, and organizational structure is rooted in a deep commitment to people-centric values. He explains why every team member earns the same salary, chooses their own work schedule, and receives equity on equal terms, creating a culture of ownership and trust. Geoff also reflects on the importance of life profitability, encouraging leaders to consider how work enriches life beyond financial gain. Geoff makes a compelling case for rethinking traditional business norms in favour of cultures that prioritize autonomy, transparency, and personal growth.

    📢 Do you want to build a high-performance culture? It all starts here: www.rethinkculture.co

    Production, video, and audio editing by Evangelia Alexaki of Musicove Productions.

    Listen to this episode to discover:
    • Why everyone at Outseta earns the same salary and equity terms.
    • How flexible schedules, ranging from 1 to 5 days per week, support different lifestyles.
    • Why all team members, including senior staff, handle customer support.
    • Why Geoff believes in “life profitability” as a measure of success beyond financial metrics.
    • How open finances and shared ownership guide company decisions.
    • How quiet generosity and servant leadership shape the culture at Outseta.
    • How investing in people’s lives outside of work builds deep loyalty and long-term commitment.

    Further resources:
    • Outseta’s Website: https://www.outseta.com
    • Geoff Roberts on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/geoffrobertsmarketing/

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  • S04E06 Culture Classics: Instilling a Culture of Amazing Service, with Gene Browne
    Jun 27 2025

    “We‘re a service business that just happens to collect waste. I never get out of the bed in the morning thinking I’m in the waste industry. Never, ever, ever. I don’t go to the waste management trade shows. Personally, I can’t think of anything worse to do. It doesn’t inspire me. But I will read every book about the service industry. I want to know what’s the best service industry in Asia. I want to know what’s the best service industry in the US. What’s the latest thinking in service? And then apply them to our little waste industry.”

    We're republishing one of our "Culture Classics" featuring Gene Browne, founder of The City Bin Co., a standout in waste management and a five-time Deloitte Best Managed Company winner in Ireland.

    In this episode, Gene shares how City Bin began in 1997 as a bold experiment in service excellence, driven by his obsession with delivering exceptional customer experiences. He reflects on the mix of luck, naivety, and resilience that shaped his journey, including surviving a ruthless competitor who literally burned down his warehouse. From expanding into the Middle East to watching middle management struggle with a culture of autonomy, Gene doesn’t hold back. More than two decades in, his fierce commitment to customer service still drives everything, from tying bonuses to customer satisfaction to sending flowers as apologies. For Gene, company values aren’t posters on the wall. They’re as personal and specific as a fingerprint.

    📢 Do you want to build a high-performance culture? It all starts here: www.rethinkculture.co

    Production, video, and audio editing by Evangelia Alexaki of Musicove Productions.

    Listen to this episode to discover:
    · How City Bin started as a customer service experiment
    · What it took to rebuild after a competitor burned down his warehouse
    · The cultural tensions of expanding internationally
    · Why autonomy can challenge traditional middle managers
    · Aligning employee incentives with customer satisfaction
    · Real-life gestures that build customer trust (like sending flowers)
    · Why "aspirational values" miss the mark, and what to focus on instead
    · Gene’s pledge to support his team’s educational dreams

    Further resources:
    · Gene Browne on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/genebrowne100/
    · City Bin Website: https://www.citybin.com/
    · Good strategy Bad Strategy, by Richard Rumelt: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11721966-good-strategy-bad-strategy
    · Building the Happiness-Centred Business, by Paddi Lund: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10088113-building-the-happiness-centred-business
    · Mastering the Rockefeller Habits, by Verne Harnish: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16120.Mastering_the_Rockefeller_Habits

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  • S04E05 Human-centric Leadership in the Age of AI, with David Tomás
    Jun 20 2025

    “AI will put humanity in the centre, and we will value that. We'll value the connections, even for companies, the level of service, the attention that you pay off, that will be at the centre. And I'm convinced it's going to have a big effect.”

    S04E05 of the Rethink Culture podcast shines the spotlight on David Tomás, founder and CEO of Cyberclick, a successful digital marketing company and one of Spain’s most people-centric workplaces. David is an entrepreneur, author, and business angel with over 15 years' experience mentoring and investing in startups.

    In this episode, David shares the story of a life-changing skydiving incident that pushed him to reevaluate how he worked and led others. He highlights the importance of transparency, treating employees as adults, and involving them directly in decision-making, including goal-setting. David reflects on how AI, when used intentionally, can support more human, empathetic leadership by freeing up time to focus on people. His vision for the future is rooted in helping more companies adopt a people-first mindset and cultivating meaningful, purpose-driven work cultures.

    📢 Do you want to build a high-performance culture? It all starts here:www.rethinkculture.co

    Production, video, and audio editing by Evangelia Alexaki of Musicove Productions.

    Listen to this episode to discover:

    · Why workplace culture should start with a clearly defined purpose.

    · How participative leadership and transparency unlock motivation and performance.

    · What happens when employees are invited to co-create company goals.

    · How AI can enhance, not replace, human-centred leadership.

    · The long-term impact of treating employees as responsible adults.

    · Why David believes great cultures scale when leaders focus on people, not just profit.

    Further resources:

    · Cyberclick’s Website: https://www.cyberclick.net/

    · David on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-tomas/

    · The Happiest Company in the World, by David Tomás: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43077648

    · The Millennial Diary, by David Tomás: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43580064-diario-de-un-millennial

    · Delivering Happiness, by Tony Hsieh: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6828896-delivering-happiness

    Chapters

    00:00 — Introduction to David Tomás

    01:43 — The Parachute Incident & Outlook Change

    03:58 — The Current Company Culture Wasn’t Fun

    04:51 — First Steps Toward Cultural Transformation

    06:46 — Rituals & Habits David is Proud Of

    10:42 — Creating Psychological Safety & Embracing Failure

    12:54 — Family Values Shaping David’s Leadership Style

    14:07 — Embedding Personal Values into Company Culture

    18:31 — Customer Reactions to Employee Happiness

    21:13 — Leadership vs. Team Responsibility

    23:33 — Micro-Cultures within Traditional Organizations

    24:11 — The Nonlinear Path to a Fulfilling Culture

    24:55 — Leadership Mistakes & Lessons Learned

    26:53 — Common Mistakes Founders Make

    28:17 — Adult-to-Adult Workplace Relationships

    30:53 — High Performers vs. Underperformers

    33:10 — The CEO’s Role in Driving AI Adoption

    36:55 — AI, Humanity, & the Future of Work

    39:12 — What CEOs Should Rethink About Culture

    40:41 — David’s Vision & Hopes for the Next 10 Years

    41:38 — Where to Find Out More about David

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  • S04E04 Culture Classics: A Culture of "Strong Convictions, Loosely Held", with Byron Darlison
    Jun 13 2025

    “The thing to be careful about, which always worried me, was just drinking your own Kool-Aid too much… “strong convictions, loosely held” the value of the company, which means that this is our culture, this is how we do things. We're very, very committed to this... if you come along and you speak a truth that's going to improve or… invalidate something in here we are not attached to it. We will throw it out and adopt your truth... So I think it's extremely important… when creating your culture to make sure you don't become so attached to it that it's just one big group thing.”

    We're republishing one of our "Culture Classics" featuring Byron Darlison, founder of Rise, a cutting-edge Canadian content management firm for digital signage. Byron has spent decades fine-tuning culture and operational efficiency, and in under 45 minutes, he shares hard-earned lessons from 30 years in leadership.

    In this episode, Byron breaks down how he blends frameworks like Peter Drucker’s performance agreements with Kim Scott’s radical candor, transforming planning into play with gamified quarterly themes and Slack shoutouts. He also reflects on building a team of experts, fostering autonomy, and leading with focus, humility, and discipline.

    📢 Do you want to build a high-performance culture? It all starts here: www.rethinkculture.co

    Production, video, and audio editing by Evangelia Alexaki of Musicove Productions.

    Listen to this episode to find out:
    · Why Rise employees either leave after a year or stay long-term

    · Why “strong convictions, loosely held” matter for culture

    · How Rise empowers experienced employees to thrive

    · What “focus, discipline, and cadence” mean at Rise

    · How to fight the Peter Principle with radical candor

    · Byron’s twist on the “Rocks and Sand” concept

    · Why a functional accountability chart works

    · Byron’s go-to frameworks (EOS, Scaling Up, 3HAG, and more)

    · What Shannon Susko’s hiring swimlanes look like

    · How Byron gamifies quarterly themes

    · Byron’s top leadership lesson: focus + punctuality

    Further resources:

    · Radical Candor, by Kim Scott: https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Candor-Revised-Kick-Ass-Humanity-ebook/dp/B07P9LPXPT/

    · 3HAG WAY, by Shannon Susko: https://www.amazon.com/3HAG-WAY-Strategic-Execution-Wild-Ass-Guess-ebook/dp/B07C7RGVD2

    · Topgrading, by Bradford D. Smart, Ph.D.: https://www.amazon.com/Topgrading-Hire-Coach-Keep-Players-ebook/dp/B09GS9GT25/

    · Building a StoryBrand, by Donald Miller: https://www.amazon.com/Building-StoryBrand-Clarify-Message-Customers-ebook/dp/B06XFJ2JGR/

    · The Six Week Cycle, by Basecamp: https://3.basecamp-help.com/article/35-the-six-week-cycle

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  • S04E03 Creating a Culture of Ownership With Profit Sharing, with Rob Gallaher
    Jun 6 2025

    “The number one thing that I hear business owners complain about is my employees don't think, care, or work like I do… The profit-sharing program that I use is for the leadership and the people making the decisions every day that affect profit the most... the goal is to bridge that gap… the thinking, caring, and working like an owner. An owner is going to be… very effective with his time because he's extremely motivated for the success.”

    S04E03 of the Rethink Culture podcast shines the spotlight on Rob Gallaher, a dynamic entrepreneur leading five companies across diverse industries with innovative profit-sharing schemes he designed.

    In this episode, Rob unpacks how effective profit sharing can cultivate ownership thinking, unity, and motivation in leadership teams. He reflects on past mistakes and shares how shifting to a $1,000 monthly threshold made rewards feel substantial and transformative. Rob emphasizes that true culture-building happens when leaders align incentives with decision-making responsibility and avoid using profit sharing as a substitute for fair wages. He also champions teamwork, communication, and recognition as essential levers in shaping a culture where people push the boulder forward, together. Rob challenges us as leaders to take full responsibility for whether our people act and think like owners.

    📢 Do you want to build a high-performance culture? It all starts here: www.rethinkculture.co

    Production, video, and audio editing by Evangelia Alexaki of Musicove Productions.

    Listen to this episode to discover:
    • Why profit sharing only works when it's designed to truly change lives.
    • The power of linking financial incentives to decision-making roles, not just job titles.
    • How over-rewarding individual performance can harm team unity.
    • Why base pay must be competitive before layering on culture-driven incentives.
    • How clear communication and shared goals unify a leadership team like a winning sports team.
    • Why a strong culture means leaders take the blame and share the glory.

    Further resources:
    • Rob on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-gallaher-42489374/
    • ProfitX Website: https://profitx.phonesites.com
    • Profit Sharing: The Power of Shared Success, by Rob Gallaher: https://www.amazon.com/Profit-Sharing-Power-Shared-Success/dp/B0DSSTNR3L

    Chapters:
    00:00 — Introduction to Rob Gallaher
    01:39 — Rob’s Journey to Entrepreneurship
    05:52 — Early Reactions from the Team
    07:52 — The Impact of Profit Sharing on Behaviour
    09:34 — Real-Life Examples of Cultural Shifts
    12:38 — When Profit Sharing Is a Good Fit
    15:02 — Teaching Financial Literacy in the Workplace
    18:02 — Key Steps to Implementing Profit Sharing
    21:59 — Balancing Delegation with Validation
    25:52 — Allocating Profit in a Practical Scenario
    29:43 — Equal vs. Tiered Profit Distribution
    34:20 — Inclusion of Lower-Level Roles in Profit Sharing
    39:12 — The Unintended Signals of Incentive Structures
    45:14 — Where to Learn More About Rob and His Work

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  • S04E02 Culture Classics: Creating a Safe Space for Employees by Getting Rid of the Micromanager Within, with Dillon Jearey
    May 30 2025

    “The first thing that I needed to do was to start creating a safe space for my staff to challenge me. The harder part was for my staff to fail. And sometimes when they failed, we lost clients. And that was really bitter, bitter pills to swallow. But I realized very quickly that if I was to create the safe space, I had to stop micromanaging. Because the minute I started micromanaging, the space was no longer safe.“

    We're republishing one of our "Culture Classics" featuring Dillon Jearey, a Cape Town-based serial entrepreneur known for his transformation from micromanager to heart-led, empathic leader. Dillon is the founder of several innovative ventures:

    • Kilowatt: a live events production powerhouse
    • 180 Digital: an animation and digital content studio
    • Three Peak Studio: a virtual broadcasting company
    • Circle Forward: a consultancy specializing in purposeful team-building experiences

    In this episode, Dillon gets real about what it takes to build a thriving company culture. He shares how he evolved as a leader, the systems he’s put in place to protect culture as his companies scale, and why emotional safety, flexibility, and trust aren’t just buzzwords, but business strategy. Dillon believes “culture is what happens when no one is watching,” and he backs that up with actions: giving factory workers flexible hours (a radical move in his industry), prioritizing mental health, and putting power in the hands of a culture committee made up of his own team. Whether you're building a business or leading within one, Dillon’s story offers a masterclass in creating companies people love to work for.

    📢 Do you want to build a high-performance culture? It all starts here: www.rethinkculture.co

    Production, video, and audio editing by Evangelia Alexaki of Musicove Productions.

    Listen to this episode to discover:
    · How Dillon transformed from a micromanager into an empathic, heart-forward leader

    · Why culture became a priority only after his team hit 30 people

    · What it means to create a workplace where it’s safe to fail and speak up

    · How Dillon uses a culture committee to address tough team issues

    · The surprising ways Dillon brings flexibility into factory work

    · Why mental health is non-negotiable for team performance

    · The secret to attracting top young talent and keeping them

    · How a culture of accountability and trust strengthens the entire business ecosystem


    Further resources:
    · Dillon Jearey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dillon-jearey/
    · Dillon Jearey on Twitter: https://twitter.com/DillonJearey
    · Kilowatt: https://kilowatt.co.za/
    · Humankind, by Rutger Bergman: https://www.amazon.com/Humankind-Hopeful-History-Rutger-Bregman/dp/0316418536

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