Show Notes & Summary

Travis John sits down with Mike Revy, Founder & CEO of Bulla Network, for a live-in-studio follow-up to the “Dividend Layer of DeFi” panel at Yield Day NYC. Revy unpacks how Bulla turns invoices, purchase orders and even one-off “friend-loans” into on-chain NFTs, creating peer-to-peer accounting rails that let businesses tokenize working capital, tap permissionless liquidity pools and earn lender yield in the 10-11% range. The conversation ranges from trucking-industry factoring to multi-chain deployment costs, stable-coin balance-sheet adoption and why 60/40 portfolios are getting a blockchain makeover.

Key Takeaways & Insights

1 | P2P Accounting → Tokenized Working Capital. Bulla mints each invoice or PO as an NFT, instantly updating the issuer’s receivables and the debtor’s payables.
2 | Two-Step Liquidity: Originators can either list claims for simple peer financing or drop them into permissioned lending pools that target double-digit APY.
3 | Trucking as a Beachhead. Short-dated freight invoices (30–60 days) are moving on-chain first—cutting expensive TradFi factoring fees and paying truckers faster.
4 | Stable-Coin Tailwinds. As U.S. policy legitimizes fiat-backed stables on balance sheets, idle USDC/USDT can finally rotate into real-world credit at scale.
5 | Multi-Chain for Cost & UX. Pools live on Polygon & ETH Mainnet, with additional user activity on Avalanche and Arbitrum. Base chain deposits give newcomers a “Coinbase-native” on-ramp with low gas.
6 | DIY Credit Funds. Any vertical lender can fork Bulla, spin up a private pool, and price its own niche receivables—turning the protocol into a “franchise” model.
7 | Friend-Lend Module. Micro-loans between wallets are minted as claim tokens, then financed in pools—bringing social lending on-chain with clear audit trails.
8 | 60/40, Reimagined. Bitcoin/ETH “equity” + Bulla invoice pools “fixed income” creates a crypto-native portfolio hedge without selling core holdings.

Chapter Markers

1. 00:00 – Intro & Yield Day Recap
2. 03:00 – What Is Bulla? From NFT Invoices to Lending Pools
3. 08:30 – Trucking & Trade Finance Use-Case
4. 14:00 – Stable-Coin Balance-Sheets & 60/40 Portfolios
5. 18:45 – Multi-Chain Deployment Choices (Gas vs. Security)
6. 24:00 – Friend-Lend, Payroll & Pseudo-Anonymity
7. 29:00 – Future Roadmap: Wyoming Stable-Token Pools & DIY Franchises
8. 32:00 – Closing Thoughts & How to Get Started

Links & Resources

• Bulla Network: https://bulla.network
• Mike Revy (Telegram): @MikeRevy
• RWA Builders Newsletter & Media Hub: https://rwa.builders

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Summary

In this episode, Travis John interviews Justin Newton, CEO of NetKey, discussing the evolution of the internet from Web 0 to Web 3, the importance of compliance in the digital asset space, and the challenges surrounding real-world assets (RWAs) and liquidity. Justin shares insights on the need for innovative compliance tools and the significance of building trust with regulators to unlock the potential of RWAs and facilitate institutional involvement in the digital asset ecosystem.

Takeaways

• The internet has evolved from a decentralized Web 0 to a more centralized Web 1 and now to Web 3.
• Understanding the interplay between technology and regulation is crucial in the digital asset space.
• Real-world assets (RWAs) represent a significant opportunity for the financial sector.
• Liquidity is essential for the success of RWAs and digital assets.
• Compliance tools must be integrated into the transaction process to ensure security.
• Building trust with regulators is key to advancing digital asset initiatives.
• Reusable identity and KYC can streamline the onboarding process for users.
• Cross-platform trading and liquidity are necessary for RWAs to thrive.
• The regulatory landscape is evolving, creating opportunities for digital assets.
• Innovative solutions are needed to address the complexities of compliance in the digital asset space.

In this episode, Dr. Ravi Chamria, co-founder and CEO of Zeeve, discusses the evolution of blockchain technology, focusing on rollups and app chains. He shares insights on the challenges enterprises face in adopting blockchain solutions, the importance of compliance and governance, and the security and scalability benefits of rollups. Dr. Chamria also highlights real-world use cases, partnerships, and the future trends in interoperability within the blockchain ecosystem.

Takeaways

• Zeeve aims to simplify blockchain deployment for enterprises.
• Rollups and app chains address scalability and compliance challenges.
• Enterprises are increasingly adopting blockchain solutions.
• Security and decentralization are critical for enterprise adoption.
• User experience is paramount in blockchain applications.
• Interoperability is becoming essential for blockchain ecosystems.
• The cost structure of rollups can be beneficial as transactions scale.
• Partnerships enhance the capabilities of blockchain solutions.
• Governance is crucial for the success of consortium blockchains.
• The future of blockchain lies in app chains and rollups.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Zeeve and Dr. Ravi Chamria
01:19 The Evolution of Blockchain: From Enterprises to Public Protocols
03:12 Understanding Rollups and App Chains
08:45 Real-World Use Cases of Rollups and App Chains
11:23 Compliance and Security in Blockchain Solutions
14:57 The Role of Security in Enterprise Blockchain
17:11 Scaling Solutions: Rollups vs. App Chains
19:19 The Growing Demand for App Chains and Rollups
22:31 Zeev's Partnerships and Ecosystem
24:56 Framework for Decision Making in Blockchain Projects
28:59 The Importance of Interoperability in Blockchain
31:46 Conclusion and Future Trends in Blockchain

Links

Web: https://www.zeeve.io/
X: https://twitter.com/0xZeeve
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/0xzeeve/