REALITY CHECK MAIN TIMELINE GENE STICCO AND NATALJA CERNOHAJEV THIRD DRAFT

In this episode of Reality Check, we dive into an office of public works in the Soviet Union named Valerij Černohajev, he wrote, in very specific terms, a manuscript in the Soviet Union-era of a UFO. Ross Coulthart sits down with the man who translated that manuscript, Gene Sticco, and his wife/daughter of Černohajev, Natalja Černohajev-Sticco, an Opera singer from Latvia. Together, they review Valerij Černohajev's manuscript. It holds hand-drawings and findings from a UFO during the Soviet Union-era. The panel discusses what he knew of the Soviet UFO Program and ponder if he saw a real UFO in person.Read the English translation of Valerij Černohajev's manuscript here: Engineering Infinity: Earth’s First Interstellar Blueprint CHAPTERS LIST 0:00 - INTRO 3:45 - WHAT HAPPENED WHAT NATALJE & GENE OPENED THE PACKAGE?8:20 - VALERJI ČERNOHAJEV'S QUALIFICIATIONS 10:49 - MANUSCRIPT UFO DRAWINGS 15:44 - SECRETS IN NATALJA'S HOUSE 18:30 - RECEIVING THE MANUSCRIPT 21:45 - NATALJE VISITS HER FATHER 23:16 - WHAT HAS GENE DISCOVERED ABOUT THE SOVIET'S UFO PROGRAM? 32:13 - RUSSIAN PATENTS 34:26 - AMERICAN PATENTS 36:29 - HAS NATALJA CONTACTED HER FATHER'S CO-WORKERS ABOUT THE SOVIET PROGRAM? 39:48 - U.S. AGENCIES READ MANUSCRIPT 41:41 - MOUNT YAMANTAU 44:10 - COLLABERATION OF U.S. & SOVIET UNION 48:31 - HAVE GOVERNMENTS COME TO GENE ABOUT THE MANUSCRIPT?49:30 - WAS VALERJI ČERNOHAJEV DESPERATE TO GET HIS MANUSCRIPT OUT? 52:18 - WHAT DOES GENE HOPE COMES FROM THESE DOCUMENTS?56:35 - PEOPLE WITH A PHYSICS BACKGROUND LOOK AT MANUSCRIPT 58:49 - U.S. DEFENSIVE CAPABILITIES 1:00:15 - WRITING THE MANUSCRIPT WITHOUT SOVIET DOCUMENTS 1:03:50 - MORE DIGGING NEEDS TO BE DONE 1:06:42 - OUTRO CREDITS Host: Ross Coulthart Executive Producer: Andy Gipson Editorial Producer: Meagan Ourada Segment Producer: Christine Jenkinson Associate Producer: William Tomasi Editor: Allen Keefner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices