Psychedelics: At the Level of Self and Society

Dr. Chantelle Thomas speaks with clinical psychologist and psychedelic therapist Dr. Joseph McCowan about identity, cultural trauma, and the role of social justice within the psychedelic renaissance. Drawing from his work as a trainer and supervisor in MDMA-assisted therapy trials for PTSD, McCowan reflects on entering the field while navigating imposter syndrome, stereotype threat, and the pressures of practicing in predominantly white research environments. The conversation explores how psychedelic therapy challenges pathologizing models of mental health by centering context, identity, and collective trauma, and examines the responsibilities clinicians carry as these treatments move toward wider implementation. Together they discuss culturally humble care, community partnerships, and the importance of building systems of healing that reach those historically excluded from mental health care.

(10:14) The Psychedelic Closet — Entering the field while navigating imposter syndrome and belonging.

(18:13) Stereotype Threat — Practicing psychedelic therapy without visible role models.

(29:20) Psychedelics and Social Justice — Framing the renaissance as part of broader liberation movements.

(38:16) Repression and Oppression — Linking internal healing models to societal power structures.

(55:16) Health Equity — Expanding psychedelic care to communities historically excluded from mental health systems.

Dr. Chantelle Thomas, Executive Clinical Director Windrose Recovery: https://windroserecovery.com/

Dr. Joseph McCowan, PsyD: https://www.fluencetraining.com/about/team/joseph-mccowan-psyd