In this episode, Hugh McPherson sits down with Chris Roehm, a seasoned financial strategist specializing in retirement planning for small business owners and self-employed professionals. Chris has helped hundreds of entrepreneurs, farmers, and agritourism businesses maximize retirement savings, reduce tax liabilities, and create long-term wealth strategies tailored to their unique business structures.

Together, they explore cash balance retirement plans—a powerful, often overlooked tool that allows business owners to save aggressively for retirement while minimizing taxes. You’ll learn how these plans differ from traditional retirement accounts, how to structure them to match your profits, and practical steps to implement them with your CPA and financial advisors.

What you’ll discover in this episode:

• How cash balance plans work and why they can outperform traditional 401(k)s

• Why profitability and paying yourself a reasonable salary are key

• Tax savings opportunities and financial aid strategies for families

• Flexible plan design options tailored to your business

• Eligibility, contribution limits, and year-end planning considerations

• How to coordinate with CPAs, attorneys, and financial advisors

• Real-life examples of business owners saving hundreds of thousands

⏱Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction: Why farmers and small business owners overlook retirement planning
02:10 – Chris Ream’s background and expertise in retirement strategies
03:16 – The link between profitability and retirement savings
04:03 – Using cash balance plans in financial aid planning
05:17 – Example: $385,000 saved in college aid
06:41 – Tax savings and income phase-outs affecting college aid
07:51 – History and evolution of cash balance plans
09:27 – Structuring plans for self-employed and small business owners
10:04 – Origins and benefits of cash balance plans
11:42 – Contribution limits and setup considerations
13:37 – Why these plans are rarely discussed
15:36 – How recent laws increased popularity
17:02 – Funding strategies and long-term growth potential
19:11 – Diversification and risk mitigation
20:38 – Planning for taxes and future income brackets
22:24 – Incorporating plans into estate and business succession
23:57 – Risks entrepreneurs face and how these plans provide safety
25:11 – Importance of early involvement with tax and legal advisors
28:27 – Evaluating if a cash balance plan is right for you
31:50 – Timing setup before tax deadlines
33:47 – Entity types eligible for cash balance plans
36:05 – Importance of reasonable salary for deductions
39:28 – Preparing for implementation over the next few years
45:04 – Age flexibility and planning options
48:52 – Planning for different future tax brackets
50:38 – Aligning retirement strategy with business growth
52:23 – Final thoughts and actionable next steps

Want to connect with Chris or see if a plan fits your business?
Chris works with small business owners, farmers, and entrepreneurs to design customized retirement and tax strategies. Many business owners start with a short, no-obligation consultation to determine if a cash balance plan aligns with their goals.

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What if real transformation didn’t come from big breakthroughs, but from small wins repeated every day? In this episode, Hugh and John explore how consistent daily habits — inspired by the idea of closing your activity rings — can drive meaningful change in both your personal life and your business.

You’ll learn how small, disciplined actions build momentum, why patience matters more than perfection, and how to create routines that stick long enough to change your results.

In this episode, you’ll discover:
• How “closing the rings” works as a powerful metaphor for daily progress
• Why small, incremental actions outperform big, ambitious goals
• How to build sustainable routines around mornings, gratitude, and communication
• Ways to push through the early discomfort of forming new habits
• The science of habit formation and why consistency beats intensity
• How identifying your deeper “why” keeps you motivated long-term
• Practical tools like reminders, tracking, and systems that reinforce behavior
• How to avoid the “if only” mindset and focus on present progress
• Simple strategies for measuring growth in business and life

Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction to the “Close the Rings” concept
02:22 – Why small habits beat big wins
04:23 – Starting small: examples from business and leadership
06:37 – Gratitude and small daily actions that build culture
07:55 – How morning routines create momentum
10:00 – Building discipline and resisting easy excuses
12:11 – The patience required when habits feel hard
14:48 – Finding a compelling “why”
16:33 – Motivating yourself through your future vision
18:46 – Escaping the “if only” mindset
22:10 – How long habits really take to stick
23:51 – Tools for tracking and reinforcing progress
26:17 – Final takeaway: consistency beats perfection

Resources Mentioned:
31 Day Workforce Turnaround by Hugh McPherson

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Mastering Community Outreach: How to Tap Into Other People’s Audiences

Want to grow your business without spending more on ads? In this episode, Hugh and John share practical strategies for expanding your reach by partnering with businesses that already serve your ideal customers. Learn how authentic collaborations can drive exponential growth, strengthen your local presence, and build lasting community connections.

In this episode, you’ll learn:
• What “other people’s people” means — and why it’s one of the fastest paths to organic growth
• How to build smart partnerships with local businesses, venues, and community leaders
• Why successful collaborations must create value for everyone involved
• How to treat partner audiences with care and build long-term trust
• Simple steps to identify, approach, and collaborate with the right businesses
• When influencer marketing works — and how to choose the right creators
• How to optimize listings, promotions, and events for maximum exposure
• Why starting small is the key to building sustainable outreach momentum
• The mindset shift from self-promotion to community-driven growth

Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction & episode overview
02:12 – What are “other people’s people”?
03:38 – Finding local audiences through partnerships
04:34 – Real example: tapping into a body shop’s audience
05:58 – Why win-win collaborations outperform advertising
07:23 – Keeping partnerships authentic and cost-effective
08:52 – Respecting partner audiences (“sacred trust”)
09:49 – Common partnership mistakes to avoid
10:44 – Managing expectations in joint promotions
12:10 – Serving partner customers with integrity
13:37 – Scaling partnerships without losing quality
15:06 – Working with influencers strategically
16:04 – Using listings and directories for visibility
17:04 – Starting small with outreach
18:25 – First steps for small businesses
19:24 – Final takeaway: building a community-driven growth engine

Resources & Links:
• Customers Coming Out of Your Ears by Hugh McPherson

• Local tourism bureaus and event directories

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