Episodios

  • Dr. Lydia Kapsenberg and Dr. Tyler Cyronak discuss research advancements on OAE’s environmental safety
    Nov 20 2025

    In this episode of Plan Sea, hosts Anna Madlener and Wil Burns dive deep into the new Biogeosciences special issue focused on the environmental safety of ocean alkalinity enhancement (OAE). This episode’s guests are Dr.Lydia Kapsenberg and Dr. Tyler Cyronak who helped edit the special issue. Compiling more than 20 studies, the special issue serves as a “one-stop shop” of the latest peer-reviewed science on the environmental safety of OAE — ranging from responses of micro algae and corals, to the influence of biogeochemical cycling and trace metals. Tune in as we unpack what insights these studies collectively suggest and discuss what it means for next steps in environmental safety research for OAE.

    The volume of OAE research has grown dramatically in recent years — increasing four-fold over the last five years. The Biogeosciences special issue shines a light on this rapidly evolving landscape and offers a tool for researchers, funders, regulators, and other partners to access centralized information on potential ecological risks, environmental monitoring standards, and feedstock safety related to multiple OAE approaches.

    Throughout the discussion, many themes arise, including the question: How important is it to understand both system-wide patterns and local ecological realities? Lydia and Tyler highlight that while the Biogeosciences studies suggest that many phytoplankton species appear to be resilient under expected OAE conditions, local species and ecological contexts must still be factored into any field research design. This is where researchers have an important responsibility to meaningfully engage with communities on what matters most for their local marine ecosystems and align planned environmental monitoring efforts accordingly.

    For researchers, policymakers, and communities assessing OAE’s environmental safety as a potential climate solution, the Biogeosciences special issue offers a crucial early evidence base and a clearer picture of what questions come next.

    As mentioned during the episode, Carbon to Sea’s Environmental Impact Monitoring Framework is now available for public review and comment here, through December 12th. Carbon to Sea and the Prince Albert II of Monaco Foundation are also currently soliciting proposals for scientific research on the safety of OAE on commercially and culturally valued marine species. You can view the full funding opportunity and submit a proposal by January 16, 2026.

    Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative and the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.


    ACRONYMS / CONCEPTS:

    • CDR: Carbon Dioxide Removal
    • EPA: Environmental Protection Agency
    • MRV: monitoring, reporting, and verification
    • OAE: ocean alkalinity enhancement
    • OAEPIIP: Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement Pelagic Impact Intercomparison Project

    Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

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  • WHOI’s Adam Subhas and Jennie Rheuban on the LOC-NESS OAE Field Trial
    Oct 23 2025

    In this edition of Plan Sea, hosts Anna Madlener and Wil Burns kick off season three of the podcast with Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI) researchers Dr. Adam Subhas and Jennie Rheuban to discuss the LOC-NESS project — a small-scale, open-ocean research trial on ocean alkalinity enhancement (OAE). The project’s co-principal investigators join Anna and Wil to recount the process of receiving a first-of-its-kind permit from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the role of local community engagement, and the project’s early findings.

    A few weeks ago, WHOI completed its highly controlled research trial in the Gulf of Maine to study the environmental safety and efficacy of OAE as a carbon dioxide removal technique. Approved by the EPA after a two-year, rigorous permitting process, the LOC-NESS project introduced small amounts of purified sodium hydroxide – a compound often used to balance the pH of drinking water – to the ocean surface waters, along with a harmless red dye to help track it. This field study came after years of preparation and development, including extensive laboratory experiments, ocean modeling, and a growing body of scientific literature.

    Dr. Adam Subhas is an Associate Scientist at WHOI and the project lead for LOC-NESS. Adam credits the project’s success so far to the comprehensive preparation and collaboration between WHOI scientists and EPA staff — on everything from ocean modeling and biogeochemical impact evaluation, to engaging communities and local industries on what to expect from the research. He also talks about how their pursuit of the first-ever ocean carbon dioxide removal (oCDR) permit under the Marine Protection, Research, and Sanctuaries Act of 1972, helped the LOC-NESS team refine their procedures, improve their approach, and make the project more responsive to feedback from their community.

    Jennie Rheuban is a WHOI Research Specialist and serves as a co-principal investigator for LOC-NESS. Jennie points to community engagement as a critical component of LOC-NESS’s development, recounting the project’s years-long effort to engage with questions from a range of stakeholders, including the fishing community. By emphasizing its position as an independent scientific research project without commercial ambitions, WHOI was able to cultivate credibility and gather important community inputs that shaped the scope and methodologies of the research. For example, the team spent additional time researching types of fish larvae in potential field trial regions to bring that information back to the local fisherman.

    Looking ahead, LOC-NESS researchers will continue to analyze data gathered during this summer’s trial to understand the impacts and efficacy of the alkalinity dispersal.

    More information about LOC-NESS’s findings will be shared at the Ocean Sciences Meeting in February 2026.

    Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.


    Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

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  • A Deep Dive on Principles for Responsible Ocean Carbon Removal Development & Governance
    Jul 17 2025

    In this edition of Plan Sea, co-host Anna Madlener sits down with co-host (and one of this week’s guests) Wil Burns, Dr. Terre Satterfield from the University of British Columbia, and Dr. Chris Pearce from the UK’s National Oceanography Center. Burns, Satterfield, and Pearce are some of the lead authors on a new report launched at the 2025 UN Ocean Conference, “Principles for Responsible and Effective Marine CDR Development and Governance.”

    Commissioned by the High-Level Panel for a Sustainable Ocean Economy, the report outlines how to responsibly evaluate and potentially scale ocean-based carbon dioxide removal (oCDR) — also referred to as marine CDR — along three pillars: scientific and technological readiness, governance, and national implementation. The framework reflects months of collaborative research to help address how oCDR can begin to move from lab trials to real-world deployment — while maintaining high standards of scientific rigor, environmental protection, and public trust. Read the full report HERE.

    Dr. Terre Satterfield, Professor of Culture, Risk and the Environment at the University of British Columbia, joins Wil and Anna to discuss the report’s recommendations for national strategies that can accelerate oCDR research and public engagement. She spoke about the importance of streamlining permitting processes for oCDR field trials, earmarking funding for lab networks for holistic oCDR evaluation, and investing in public engagement hubs to help co-design research efforts.

    Dr. Christopher Pearce, drawing from his research on oCDR science at the UK’s National Oceanography Center, discusses how the report offers six categories to assess scientific and technological readiness for various oCDR approaches. This aims to help policymakers better understand when and why, for example, an approach may be quite well-understood by scientists in the lab, but the environmental impacts associated with larger projects are less understood and require field trials for further evaluation. He also explains how tools like pre-permitted testbed sites and national lab networks can promote data sharing and create the infrastructure needed for safe and scalable mCDR projects.

    Looking ahead, Wil, Terre, and Chris discuss how international frameworks like BBNJ (Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction) can ensure accountability for future mCDR governance, and reflect on the major challenges facing the field—from limited public awareness and funding to the need for strong public oversight as the technology scales. The report offers important recommendations, such as creating pre-permitted testbed sites and national lab networks that can promote research efficiency and strong standards as oCDR continues to be evaluated, regulated, and tested.

    To learn more about the report’s findings, listen to the full episode HERE, subscribe with your favorite podcast service, or find the entire series here.

    Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

    ACRONYMS / CONCEPTS:

    • MRV (1:26); Monitoring, Reporting, and Verification
    • TRL (6:58); Technology Readiness Level
    • SRL (6:44); Scientific Readiness Level
    • BBNJ (38:03); Agreement on Biodiversity of Areas Beyond National Jurisdiction, also known a

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  • Community Engagement and Trial Monitoring with Ebb Carbon’s Kyla Westphal and Mallory Ringham
    Jun 26 2025

    In this edition of Plan Sea, hosts Anna Madlener and Wil Burns sit down with Kyla Westphal and Mallory Ringham from Ebb Carbon to discuss Project Macoma — the company’s pilot ocean alkalinity enhancement (OAE) study being conducted in Port Angeles, Washington this summer. A first-of-its-kind endeavor, Project Macoma aims to remove up to 1,000 tonnes of CO2 from the atmosphere using Ebb Carbon’s electrochemical OAE technology. Kyla and Mallory join to share more about their journey engaging the local community on this proposed research, securing a permit from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), and establishing Monitoring, Reporting, and Verification (MRV) standards as this work gets underway.


    Project Macoma continues the work of the late Dr. Matthew Eisaman, Co-Founder of Ebb Carbon and a pivotal figure in the ocean-based carbon dioxide removal (oCDR) field. Matt dedicated his life to fostering a clear understanding of the scientific path forward for potential oCDR solutions, while also creating an inclusive and environmentally-responsible sector. For more background into Ebb Carbon and a deep dive into their approach, listen to our episode with Matt HERE.


    Kyla Westphal, Vice President of External Affairs at Ebb Carbon, joins Anna and Will to discuss her role developing safe and responsible deployment of OAE. Building on her experience working in what she calls “the intersection between technology and humanity,” Kyla oversees both the stakeholder engagement and ecological safety aspects of Ebb Carbon’s work. She shares how Project Macoma is building on years of foundational environmental research and engagement with Washington state regulators, community groups, and tribal governments to earn local buy-in and support.


    Mallory Ringham, Lead Oceanographer and Head of MRV, then discusses how Ebb Carbon secured the first-ever National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (NPDES) approval for oCDR under the Clean Water Act. She shares how the permit requires a slow, careful, and continuously monitored operation to ensure water quality standards are met within prescribed mixing zones. Mallory also discusses how Ebb’s foundational research created a strong understanding of the seasonal and tidal variability in the region, allowing for more accurate monitoring and analysis of the project. This summer, Mallory will continue to oversee the monitoring process to ensure the project is operating safely, responsibly, and effectively.


    Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.


    ACRONYMS / CONCEPTS:

    • MRV (1:05); Monitoring, Reporting and Verification
    • NPDES (14:56); National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System
    • MCDR; Marine Carbon Dioxide Removal (21:58)

    Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

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  • Special Episode by Plan Sea and The Carbon Curve: Insights from the Carbon to Sea 2025 Annual Convening with Dr. Lennart Bach
    Jun 5 2025

    In this edition of Plan Sea, host Anna Madlener is joined by Na’im Merchant, host of The Carbon Curve podcast and Executive Director of Carbon Removal Canada, for a special co-hosted episode of the two podcasts. Recorded live at the Carbon to Sea 2025 Annual Convening, Anna and Na’im speak with Lennart Bach, Associate Professor and ocean alkalinity enhancement (OAE) scientist at the University of Tasmania, to share insights and key takeaways from this year’s convening.


    Last month, Carbon to Sea hosted its third Annual Convening in Washington, D.C., bringing together scientists, entrepreneurs, and policymakers to share recent progress and discuss a path forward for OAE. Bach, who previously spoke with Plan Sea on his work in ocean iron fertilization, was a speaker on this year’s “Scientific Research Progress and Updates” panel. Focused on the environmental impacts of OAE, Bach’s research aims to learn more about how OAE approaches may impact the marine ecosystem.


    Building on conversations from the convening, Bach joins Anna and Na’im to share his optimism about the future of OAE, while also recognizing the potential challenges posed by a dip in the “hype cycle” that emerging scientific fields often face. However, Bach said he feels confident in progress that’s already been made and noted the importance of building on preliminary findings about OAE’s potential to conduct more targeted research.


    Na’im similarly addresses this challenging moment for the climate industry writ large, as it faces reduced funding and policy support in many areas, with new geopolitical headwinds. Drawing on his experience working across the carbon removal space, Na’im offers advice for how the OAE field can address this moment by prioritizing focused research, establishing an updated roadmap, and exploring new funding pathways.


    Looking ahead, both Na’im and Bach highlight the importance of aligning on MRV approaches, cross-sector partnerships, increased community and policymaker engagement, and exploring new funding pathways in order to advance OAE research. As this year’s convening exemplified, the immediate opportunities in OAE research have largely been addressed; what lies ahead is more complex and demands significantly greater coordination.

    Listen to our previous episode with Lennart Bach here.


    ACRONYMS / CONCEPTS:

    • OAE (2:28)
    • MRV (18:06)
    • DAC (23:37)
    • CRCF (29:59)
    • ETS (29:59)
    • ERW (36:16)


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  • Insights from the 2025 Ocean Visions Summit, Part Two
    Apr 17 2025

    This episode of Plan Sea was recorded live at the Ocean Visions Biennial Summit 2025, and features conversations with experts from Ocean Visions, UArctic, and WHOI to discuss their work in the ocean-climate nexus. Host Anna Madlener is joined again by special co-host, Danny Gawlowski, Carbon to Sea’s Senior Manager of Communications and Policy. Listen to Part One of Plan Sea’s coverage of the Ocean Vision Biennial here.

    Guests on this episode include:

    • Nikhil Neelakantan, Senior Program Officer at Ocean Visions
    • Marianne Hagen, Co-lead of Seabed Curtain Project at UArctic Frozen Arctic Conservation Network
    • Kilaparti (Rama) Ramakrishna, Director of Marine Policy Center and Senior Advisor to the President on Ocean and Climate Policy at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
    • David Koweek, Chief Scientist at Ocean Visions

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  • Insights from the 2025 Ocean Visions Summit, Part One
    Apr 10 2025

    This episode of Plan Sea was recorded live at the Ocean Visions Biennial Summit 2025, and features conversation with Ocean Visions CEO Brad Ack and other attendees to discuss their work in ocean-based carbon dioxide removal (oCDR). Host Anna Madlener is joined by a special co-host, Danny Gawlowski, Carbon to Sea’s Senior Manager of Communications and Policy.

    Guests on this episode include:

    • Brad Ack, CEO of Ocean Visions
    • Marc von Keitz, Director at The Grantham Foundation for the Protection of the Environment
    • Mariam Swaleh, Assistant Registrar of Research and Grants at Technical University of Mombasa, Team Lead at Ocean-Climate Innovation Hub Kenya, and OCI Fellow at the Global Ecosystem of Ocean Solutions
    • Lily Schacht, Senior Carbon Removal Verification Engineer at 350Solutions
    • Meg Chadsey, Carbon Specialist at Washington Sea Grant

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  • How current policies affect ocean-based carbon removal research and innovation in Canada
    Mar 13 2025

    In this edition of Plan Sea, hosts Anna Madlener and Wil Burns are joined by Drs. Sara Seck and Neil Craik to discuss the current governance and public funding landscape for ocean-based carbon dioxide removal (oCDR) research and innovation in Canada. They focus particularly on jurisdictional challenges in Nova Scotia, related to an increase in oCDR R&D in the province over recent years, and discuss broadly how to strengthen future policymaker and public engagement.

    Sara Seck is a Professor of Law at Dalhousie University’s Schulich School of Law, serving as the Yogis and Keddy Chair in Human Rights Law and the Director of the Marine & Environmental Law Institute. Dr. Seck sheds light on the complex and overlapping jurisdiction of land and ocean rights in Canada. She shares insights for oCDR stakeholders seeking to navigate this landscape to address permitting and other governance issues in coordination with the federal Canadian government, provincial governments, and First Nations leadership.

    Neil Craik is a Professor at the University of Waterloo, with appointments to the Basillie School of International Affairs (BSIA) and the School of Environment, Enterprise, and Development. He is also a Senior Fellow at the Centre for International Governance Innovation and Co-Lead of the Environment and Resources Research Cluster at the BSIA. Dr. Craik discusses legislation and public funding opportunities that can help support oCDR initiatives in Canada. He also explains current procurement strategies for carbon credits across both the public and private sectors, and how oCDR can work towards compliance to access this market in the future.

    During the episode, the Plan Sea guests and hosts consider the implications of good governance and policy on advancing the development and funding of oCDR initiatives. The oCDR field is reaching a pivotal moment, with many research projects now moving towards real-world field trials that will answer key scientific questions but also raise new challenges for navigating existing and emerging legislation. Doubling-down on public engagement and unlocking new funding opportunities will be increasingly important for advancing oCDR activities in Canada and elsewhere.

    ACRONYMS / CONCEPTS:

    • CDR: Carbon Dioxide Removal
    • mCDR: Marine Carbon Dioxide Removal
    • MRV: Measurement, Reporting, and Verification
    • BBNJ Agreement: Agreement on Marine Biodiversity of Areas beyond National Jurisdiction
    • TCA: Transforming Climate Action Research Program


    Plan Sea is a semi-weekly podcast exploring ocean-based climate solutions, brought to you by the Carbon to Sea Initiative & the American University Institute for Responsible Carbon Removal.

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    54 m