In episode 102 Theresa and Kathryn talk with Dr. Rhoda Bernard—singer, pianist, educator, and founding Managing Director of the Berklee Institute for Accessible Arts Education—to explore what truly accessible music education looks like in today’s classrooms. Rhoda shares her journey through music teacher identity and her deep work in designing arts education programs that meaningfully include learners with disabilities. She breaks down common barriers students face—both visible and invisible—and offers powerful mindset shifts to help teachers move from deficit-based thinking to asset-based, student-centered instruction.

Throughout the conversation, Rhoda provides practical, immediately usable strategies for increasing accessibility in any music setting, from general music to ensembles. She discusses the importance of multimodal teaching (especially visuals), anticipating barriers during planning, and “messing with the notation” to support diverse learners. Rhoda also illuminates how inclusive practices naturally foster student ownership, agency, and community—benefiting all musicians, not just those with disabilities. Her new book, Accessible Arts Education: Principles, Habits, and Strategies to Unleash Every Student’s Creativity and Learning, offers an even deeper dive into these ideas and features first-person perspectives from artists with disabilities. This inspiring conversation is full of tools and mindset shifts you can bring into your classroom tomorrow.

Connect with Rhoda and learn more:

• Book, Accessible Arts Education
• Berklee Institute of Accessible Arts Education
• Facebook
• Instagram

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In episode 101, Theresa and Kathryn sit down with David Davis, a music educator whose journey from traditional instruction to deeply student-centered, culturally responsive teaching is both relatable and transformative. David shares how his early experiences, especially working in diverse school settings, pushed him to rethink long-held norms about excellence, proficiency, and what it truly means to be a musician. He discusses the power of listening to students, treating them as co-teachers, and embracing creativity as a core component of music learning rather than an occasional add-on.

David also brings to life several of his innovative projects, including the beloved “Kinder Connect” lessons, the powerful “Elders Wisdom Children’s Song” composition project, and even a fully student-created virtual musical born during COVID. Throughout the conversation, he emphasizes risk-taking, redefining the teacher’s role as coach, and rebuilding music education around connection, culture, and intrinsic motivation. Whether you teach band, orchestra, general music, or anything in between, David’s stories will leave you inspired to try something new, and to empower your students to lead, create, and thrive.

Connect with David and learn more:

• Website
• LinkedIn

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In this special 100th episode of Pass the Baton, co-hosts Kathryn Finch and Theresa Hoover celebrate two major milestones — five years since their book Pass the Baton was released and 100 podcast episodes of amplifying student-centered music education. They reminisce about how their collaboration began on Twitter, how their shared passion for empowering students led to writing the book, and how the podcast grew from a YouTube series during the pandemic into a thriving platform for teacher inspiration and connection.

The celebration continues with a visit from past guest Dr. Shane Colquhoun, who reflects on the progress of music education, the importance of authenticity in teaching, and the need to empower both students and teachers. Kathryn and Theresa also share lessons they’ve learned from past guests — from student feedback to rethinking grading — and discuss how their own thinking about empowerment has evolved. The episode wraps up with lighthearted reflections, gratitude to listeners, and excitement for what’s ahead as Pass the Baton continues to grow and inspire.

Links from this episode:

• Episode 53, The Most Important Question in Music Education, with Shane Colquhoun
• Episode 82, Making Music, Meaningful Connections, with Matthew Stensrud
• Episode 87, Using the Critical Response Process, with Mallory Alekna
• Episode 90, Throw Away the Rubric, with Chris Gleason
• Episode 95, Listening First, with Y?

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• Join the Coffee Club
• Support Pass the Baton
• Amplify student voice with Exit Tickets for Self Reflection