'Pace yourself for the long haul': Jocelyne Bourgon joins The Hot Room

Peter Mazereeuw speaks with Jocelyne Bourgon, a former clerk of the Privy Council who served as Jean Chrétien's right hand. They discuss Canada's move away from the United States, national unity, public service cuts, and Bourgon's new book, A Public Servant's Voice: Through the Words of the First Woman Clerk of the Privy Council of Canada.