On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys celebrate the pod’s 200th episode with travel icon Rick Steves! Kiernan chats with Rick about his latest book “On the Hippie Trail: Istanbul to Kathmandu and the Making of a Travel Writer” and about how keeping a journal can make one into a keener observer of culture.

Rick’s philosophy of travel is that if you haven’t come back changed, you didn’t do it right. This interview will leave you changed.

Plus, a new artistic saint!

Things we talked about in today’s podcast:

Rick Steves’ Europe

https://www.ricksteves.com/

Free scans of every page of Rick’s journal

https://www.ricksteves.com/about-rick/original-hippie-trail-journal

Saint Gaudi!

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/world/europe/antoni-gaudi-architect-saint.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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And a final note from Ryan and Kiernan: RIP POPE FRANCIS!

On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan takes us on three day trips from Santiago, Chile. First is Valparaíso, a coastal city known for its hills, historic funiculars, and street art. Then on to Valle de Colchagua, where wine tastings and a standout meal at Fuegos de Apalta make for a vino day. Finally, head to the Andes to soak in the mineral pools at Termas Valle de Colina. Plus, Kiernan talks about his old friend Corn Husker 55!

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Santiago Episode:
https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-194-santiago-chile/

The Hills:
https://www.moon.com/travel/trip-ideas/the-hills-of-valparaiso-chile/

Restaurants: La Concepción & La Caperucita y el Lobo

https://museobaburizza.cl/en/home/

Our wine tour provider:
https://colchaguawinetours.com/

On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys head to Krakow, the intellectual heart of Poland. The city is home to beautiful churches, endless Pope John Paul II memorabilia, one of the oldest universities in the world (Copernicus attended), and moving remembrances of Jewish citizens killed in the Holocaust. Plus, a quick detour to the historic Wieliczka Salt Mine.

Things We Talked About on Today’s Episode:

Schengen Area:
https://dailypassport.com/what-is-the-schengen-area/

Remains of the Ghetto wall
https://g.co/kgs/ammrVVz

Oskar Schindler's Enamel Factory
https://muzeumkrakowa.pl/en/branches/oskar-schindlers-enamel-factory

MOCAK
https://en.mocak.pl/

https://www.instagram.com/prosciuttko_/?hl=en