This week, Mary Grace joins me for a heartfelt conversation about motherhood, calling, and trusting God with our children’s futures.

We recap the last few episodes and dive into the dreams we have for our kids and the tension between planning for them and surrendering them to the Lord.

Mary Grace shares the story of her mission trip and the defining moment when God called her into ministry. Her journey is a beautiful reminder that God often shapes purpose in unexpected places.

I also share a line from my journal that has deeply shaped how I see motherhood: “Motherhood is to love who they were created to be, not what you want them to be.” As Proverbs 16:9 says, “In their hearts humans plan their course, but the Lord establishes their steps.”

This episode is about releasing control, embracing calling, and trusting that God’s plans for our children are far greater than anything we could design ourselves.

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In this episode, it’s just the girls. Carmen and Mary Grace share what it’s really been like navigating very different communication styles while growing up in the same home. They open up about how they process, express emotions, and respond under pressure, and how those differences showed up in real life, especially while being coached by similar leaders in high school. From misunderstandings to growth moments, they reflect on how learning to understand one another changed not just how they communicated, but how they related as sisters. This conversation is honest, reflective, and full of sister perspective showing how awareness, grace, and a willingness to listen can strengthen any relationship. If you’re a parent, sibling, or coach trying to navigate differences without losing connection, this episode is for you. Helpful Resources Mentioned in the Episode: Enneagram Information: https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/ PDP Communication Tool: https://wowconsultinginc.com/pdptools/ Connect with Our Perspective: 💛 Instagram: @ourperspective.podcast 💛 Follow Patricia: @patricia_6710 💛 Follow Mary Grace: @_marygrace_d

In this episode, we continue the conversation around communication, but this time, we get more personal. We share a few more stories, laugh a lot, and give you a deeper look into how the girls communicate, process, and show up in real life. These early episodes are really about laying the foundation: what our home looked like, how we talked through hard moments, and how understanding communication styles shaped how we related to one another as a family. It’s honest, lighthearted, and full of real-life moments that helped us grow in empathy and connection. If you’re a parent trying to better understand your kids (or yourself), this episode is an invitation to listen, laugh, and learn alongside us. Helpful Resources Mentioned in the Episode: Enneagram Information: https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/ PDP Communication Tool: https://wowconsultinginc.com/pdptools/ Connect with Our Perspective: 💛 Instagram: @ourperspective.podcast 💛 Follow Patricia: @patricia_6710 💛 Follow MG: @_marygrace_d

In this episode, we do a deep dive into communication styles—how they show up under pressure, how they differ from person to person, and why understanding them matters so much in real life.

We kick things off with a hilarious and humbling story from a mountain hike that went very wrong, very fast.

The Hike That Changed Everything

The four of us—Thomas, Carmen, Mary Grace, and myself—set out for what we thought would be an easy 8-mile hike. No big deal… or so we thought.

Instead, we somehow ended up hiking 18 miles, all the way up to the Appalachian Approach Trail.

• No cell service
• Not enough water
• Completely unprepared
• And by the time we reached the top with 9 miles still left to walk down, all we had left between us was one bag of nuts

What followed was a perfect real-life example of how different personalities and communication styles show up under stress. Every Enneagram number on that hike made itself very clear—and the reactions were wildly different (and honestly, pretty funny).

Enneagram in Real Life

As we retell the hike, we unpack how each person’s Enneagram number showed up:

• How some stayed calm
• How others took charge
• How some spiraled internally
• And how miscommunication made an already tough situation even harder

It’s a real-world look at how personality differences can either clash—or complement each other—when things don’t go as planned.

Introducing the PDP Framework

From there, the conversation transitions into the P, C, D, E communication framework (also referred to as the PDP tool), a tool I’ve personally used with all three of my kids to help them:

• Understand how they communicate
• Recognize how others communicate differently
• Reduce conflict
• And build healthier conversations

We walk through each letter—P, C, D, and E:

• What each one represents
• How it shows up in communication
• How it can be misunderstood
• And how understanding it can completely change the way you relate to your kids (and everyone else)

📎 A link to the PDP resource is included in the show notes so you can explore it more deeply on your own.

Why This Matters

This episode is a reminder that:

• Communication breaks down fastest when we’re tired, stressed, or unprepared
• Personality differences aren’t problems—they’re information
• And understanding how your kids are wired can turn frustration into empathy

Whether you’re a parent, spouse, leader, or friend, this episode will give you practical insight—and a good laugh along the way. Information on the Enneagram - https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/ Infomation on the PDP- https://wowconsultinginc.com/pdptools/ Connect with Our Perspective 💛 Instagram @ourperspective.podcast 💛 Follow Patricia @patricia_6710 💛 Follow MG @ _marygrace_d

When the Walls Came Down: Where God Met Us in the In-Between In Episode 9, Carmen and Pat sit down for a conversation that starts with communication but naturally unfolds into something much deeper. Together, they reflect on the moments God used, often quietly and unexpectedly to bring their hearts closer. We talk about Carmen’s love for horseback riding and the beautiful ways God met and strengthen us through that passion. From there, we look back on long walks on Davis Islands during Covid, when life slowed down and time together became sacred. Those walks created space for walls that had been built over many years to slowly come down. This episode is about the gift of intentional, one-on-one time and what can happen when we choose to listen without rushing, fixing, or filling the silence. Pat shares how those moments helped her understand Carmen’s heart more deeply, and how creating a safe, unhurried place allowed Carmen to open up and share freely. More than anything, this conversation is a reminder that God often meets us in the in-between. He mets us in the walks, the hobbies, the quiet moments, and the time we choose to give our kids. Parents this is so important. When we make room and stay present, the Holy Spirit gently does the work of softening hearts, breaking down walls, and growing connection in ways only He can. If you’re a parent longing for deeper connection with your child, let this episode remind you that it doesn’t have to be perfect—it just has to be present. God is already at work in the in-between.

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In this special bonus video for Episode 8, Is Everything OK With Your Heart? Learning to Unpack What We Carry, Pat goes deeper into the heart-check questions that sparked so much reflection in the main episode.

This intimate conversation creates space to unpack what we’re really carrying beneath the surface: unspoken hurts, lingering worries, broken trust, and emotions we often overlook. Building on Proverbs 3:5 and insights from Enemies of the Heart by Andy Stanley, this bonus dives deeper into the importance of daily heart awareness and inviting God into the hidden places of our lives.

Pat reflects more personally on the power of asking intentional questions, listening closely to the Holy Spirit, and allowing Scripture to guide us back to truth when emotions try to take the lead.

This bonus is an invitation to slow down, check in with your heart, and honestly assess what may be impacting your relationship with God and others.

In Episode 8, Is Everything OK With Your Heart? Learning to Unpack What We Carry, we welcome a very special guest, Carmen!!! She is making her podcast debut and we are so excited to share her with you guys! This episode is a heartfelt and honest conversation about what it looks like to intentionally unpack our hearts so we can live healthy, free, and open to what God has for us. We center our conversation around Proverbs 3:5, reflecting on Carmen’s personal struggle with trust and how Scripture has played a key role in shaping her faith. We also draw from Andy Stanley’s Enemies of the Heart, exploring the importance of recognizing what we’re holding onto before it quietly affects our hearts and relationships.

This episode is filled with encouragement on memorizing Scripture, listening to the Holy Spirit, and bringing God’s Word back to the forefront when emotions, worries, or past hurts resurface. Pat also shares the simple but powerful heart-check questions she asked every night—questions that created space for honesty, healing, and deeper connection. As we learn what it means to unpack our hearts daily, we’re reminded that a healthy heart leads to freedom, openness, and a greater awareness of God’s presence. This conversation also lays the foundation for our next episode, where we’ll dive even deeper into communication.

Heart-Check Questions We Discuss: * Is everything OK with your heart? * Are you mad at anybody? * Did anyone break a promise? * Did anyone hurt your feelings? * Is there anything you need to tell me? * Are you worried about anything? Connect with Our Perspective 💛 Instagram @ourperspective.podcast 💛 Follow Patricia @patricia_6710 💛 Follow MG @ _marygrace_d

What could change in your family if you started reading the Bible together today? In Episode 7 of Our Perspective, MG and Pat are joined by their dear friend Amy for a meaningful conversation about building a rhythm of Scripture in your home. We partner with SOAR, a journaling method that helps individuals and families engage God’s Word through Scripture, Observation, Application, and Reflection. Together, we cast a vision for the future: What might your relationship with your kids look like by the end of 2026, if you committed to reading the Bible together now? How might your family dynamic shift? And how could your relationship with God deepen along the way? This episode is full of encouragement for parents who feel unsure where to start, overwhelmed by busy schedules, or simply longing for a deeper spiritual connection at home. You don’t need perfection, just presence, consistency, and a willingness to invite God into your daily rhythm. Now is the time to begin. Grab a SOAR journal, press play, and take the first step toward creating a legacy of faith in your family. Start small, stay consistent, and trust that God will honor every moment you choose to open His Word together. SOAR Resources- lnk.bio/soar.journal Connect with SOAR 💛 Instagram @soar.journal Connect with Our Perspective 💛 Instagram @ourperspective.podcast 💛 Follow Patricia @patricia_6710 💛 Follow MG @ _marygrace_d