OA1173 - More people have been to space than practice space law, and Professor Michelle Hanlon is one of its most important modern pioneers. Professor Hanlon joins to talk Star Trek captains, preserving historic sites on the Moon, and why she believes the mass privatization of space is--at least if properly regulated--the only way forward.

• Prof. Michelle Hanlon’s University of Mississippi faculty biography

• “Why Are We All So Obsessed with the Moon?”, Michelle Hanlon, New York Times (12/7/2024)

• The Artemis Accords (signed 10/30/2020)

• “The Wild Wild West of Space Law,” Michael O’Shea, The Walrus (8/13/2020)

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OA1172 - It’s been two weeks since the Supreme Court decided that babies in only half of the US get to be born as citizens. We try to make sense of what they left behind in one of the most important shadow docket cases in history, and how concerned Samuel Alito should really be that the actual text of the 14th Amendment might still prevail in the end. Matt also considers how likely it is that Zohran Mamdani might lose his citizenship over his rap lyrics, and we wrap with a quick footnote combining two of our favorite things: bad AI in court and Mike Lindell.

• Trump v. CASA (6/27/25)

• Judge LaPlante’s order certifying class in Barbara v. Trump (7/10/2025)

• DOJ memo re: priorities including denaturalization (6/11/2025)

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