We sat down for our for our first solo episode in a while, catching up and talking through everything from horse clinics to the day-to-day realities of working with horses and running a training business. We dug into the differences between one-day and multi-day clinics, what it takes to help horses and riders make real progress, and how staying adaptable in your approach keeps the work interesting. Tune in and enjoy!

Joe sits down with Max Morin, a reining horse trainer based in Aubrey, Texas, who’s built a name for himself developing top-tier 2-year-old prospects. Originally from France, Max’s love for horses started young—even when he had to learn from horsemanship videos in a language he barely understood. He shares how he made it to the U.S., landed a job with legendary trainer John Lyons, and eventually carved out a place of his own in the performance horse world.

Max opens up about his journey, the mentors who shaped his horsemanship—like John & Josh Lyons and Nick Dowers—and how he’s now focused on blending strong fundamentals with elite performance. It’s a story of grit, passion, and the pursuit of excellence in and out of the arena.

Cole Cameron is a horseman, clinician, and competitor from Bluff Dale, TX. In this episode of On the Move, Ben sits down with Cole to discuss his journey in horsemanship, from personal experiences and career-defining moments to the evolving landscape of clinics and expos. They dive into the challenges of teaching, the importance of financial literacy for trainers, and the realities of balancing family life with a demanding career. As a past Road to the Horse competitor, Cole shares his insights on the event, reflecting on his experience in the competition and its impact on the industry.

Joseph Bentz is a horse trainer and rancher from Jentura, Oregon. Joseph grew up on his family's ranch in eastern Oregon. After deciding that college was not the path he wanted to take, he worked for Nick Dowers for two years in Dyer, Nevada. In Dyer, Joseph not only honed his horse training ability, but also learned to manage people and better run a ranch. Today, he heads up the colt starting program at his family's Spur Brand Horse Program in Oregon. Every year the Bentz family puts on the Ranchers Horse Sale. For more information you can visit their website at www.ranchershorsesale.com.

Joseph will be competing in the Road to The Horse 2025 as a wild card competitor. If you'd like to watch him in Road to The Horse, he will be competing starting March 27th in Lexington, KY. A livestream is available at Road to The Horse's Youtube Channel.

If you'd like to learn from experienced horsemen like Joseph Bentz, you can purchase Cowboy Week at nickdowers.com/cowboy-week. Use coupon code "ONTHEMOVE" for 10% off your purchase at checkout.

Tommy Kilgore is a farrier and clinician from Morris, Oklahoma. Tommy has made a living shoeing everything from backyard kid ponies to high end western performance horses. Graduating from Oklahoma Farrier's College at the age of 17, Tommy had the opportunity to be mentored by the legendary Bud Beaston. For over 35 years Tommy has worked to continue his education and improve on every aspect of his work, from the routine trim, to corrective shoeing. Today, in addition to his farrier work, Tommy travels the country teaching clinics to help people trim and shoe in a way that better helps the horse. Join Joe as he sits down to learn more about Tommy's story and his goals for the future.

Rye McKay is a cowboy from Northern Nevada and a founding father of Cowboy Week. Rye grew up in the ranching industry, learning his foundation for stockmanship and horsemanship from his father. At 18, Rye got his first camp job and has been working with horses, cattle and dogs ever since. Joe sits down with Rye to discuss cowboy week, learning from others and developing a sense of self.

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Ty Evans, along with his wife Skye, owns and operates TS Mules. Ty has made a name for himself in the mule world as a clinician and trainer. Originally from Utah, Ty grew up around mules and horses and was later influenced by teachers such as former podcast guest, Brad Cameron. Today, Ty travels the country with his family teaching "mulemanship" clinics in addition to online teaching, writing articles and producing a podcast. Ty joins Ben and Joe to visit about his unique lifestyle and his horsemanship philosophy. You can find out more about Ty and his business by going to https://tsmules.com/ or following TS Mules on Instagram and Facebook.

This week on On the Move, Ben and Joe chat with Chris Dickinson, a renowned Western photographer known for his hands-on approach to capturing powerful, iconic images. Driven by a passion for creative exploration, Chris goes to great lengths to get the perfect shot, often in challenging conditions. Inspired in his youth by National Geographic and LIFE magazines, Chris now captures intimate, authentic moments with the people of the American West, gaining unique access to ranches and families. His work has been featured in top publications like American Quarter Horse Association, Cowgirl Magazine, and Western Horseman, and in ad campaigns for brands like KFC and Choice Hotels. Based in Utah, Chris also leads photography retreats for aspiring photographers. Discover his work on Instagram and Facebook and listen to him now here on On the Move.

Website: https://www.cdphotog.com/

Instagram: @cdphotog

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