Oklahoma Senator Markwayne Mullin on Loyalty, Leadership & the Fight for America’s Future
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U.S. Senator Markwayne Mullin joins 13th & Park for a wide-ranging conversation on the forces shaping America’s future — from energy dominance and AI-driven power needs to tribal sovereignty, economic pressure on working families, and the personal story that forged his approach to public service.
A Cherokee Nation citizen, rancher, and lifelong entrepreneur, Mullin discusses why Congress must recruit leaders with real-world experience, how permitting reform is holding back U.S. energy capacity, and why America’s ability to compete in the next era of data, defense, and AI depends on unleashing domestic production.
He also reflects on the deeply personal moment when President Trump intervened to help his critically injured son, a story that illustrates a side of Trump rarely seen publicly — and one that shaped Mullin’s understanding of loyalty, leadership, and service.
From housing costs, inflation perception, and the economic mood, to the future of energy, Native American sovereignty, and the senator’s own journey from overcoming childhood challenges to running a national-scale business, this episode offers a candid look at a leader shaped by adversity and grounded by family.
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