#873. Kaitlyn sits down with history-making Sports Illustrated cover star Lauren Chan — the first out lesbian and first Chinese person to land the SI Swimsuit cover.

Lauren gets real about discovering her sexuality while married to a man, turning heartbreak into pride, and why representation is the driving force behind everything she does. From “gay audacity” to being trolled by Ben Shapiro, to falling in love on set with her now-partner, Lauren doesn’t hold back.

She spills about her time on Canada’s Drag Race and The Traitors Canada, admits she’s gunning for a spot on Real Housewives, and reveals her dream of hosting a queer dating show.

It’s raw, inspiring, and laugh-out-loud — and by the end, you’ll see why Lauren Chan is a voice we all need right now.

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EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

• (4:20) — How She Made History: From fashion editor to SI’s first lesbian cover star.
• (10:45) — Coming Out Shock: Realizing she was gay while married to a man.
• (24:30) — Reality TV Secrets: Behind the scenes The Traitors Canada + her dream queer dating show.
• (32:45) — Ben Shapiro Called Her Ugly?! Lauren breaks beauty standards and shuts down critics.

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#872. From flying fighter jets to inspiring audiences worldwide, Michelle “MACE” Curran’s story soars above and beyond. Once a shy small-town kid battling social anxiety, she went on to become the Lead Solo Pilot for the U.S. Air Force Thunderbirds—one of the most elite positions in aviation.

In this episode, Mace shares what it really takes to become a fighter pilot, the near-catastrophic flight that earned her the call sign “Mace,” and the reality of often being the only woman in the room. She and Kaitlyn dive into her new book The Flipside: How to Invert Your Perspective and Turn Fear into Your Superpower, unpacking the tools she uses to turn fear into confidence and why boldness is built—not born.

From high-G turns in the cockpit to captivating keynote stages, Mace proves that bravery isn’t about being fearless—it’s about showing up anyway.

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• (4:03)– The Moment She Knew She Wanted to Fly Fighter Jets
• (24:00) – The Story Behind the Call Sign “Mace”
• (29:30) – Becoming Only The 2nd Woman as Lead Solo Pilot
• (51:35) – How Mace Met Her Husband on Bumble
• (58:25) – Turning Fear Into a Superpower

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#871. Did you know Colton Underwood and Kaitlyn are cohosting a brand-new Hulu dating show, Are You My First? Now that the season is out, they can finally spill all the tea — and this is the convo Colton was most nervous for… because when they sit down together, things get way too comfortable ;)

We cover it all — their totally different journeys with love and sex, how Colton finally lost his virginity, and the guilt, confusion, and shame he carried while trying to convince himself he was straight. He opens up about faith, coming out, and what life looks like now — married, starting a family, and finally living as his best self.

But don’t worry, it’s not all serious! They spill behind-the-scenes tea from filming on a tropical island (think lightning strikes & jellyfish attacks), dish on cast secrets, and even debate who was really a virgin. Plus — reunion plans? A lie detector for season 2?

Hit play for laughs, honesty, and stories you won’t hear anywhere else.

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• (10:08) – Colton gets real about losing his virginity, the guilt, the shame, and the wild mental gymnastics he did trying to convince himself he was straight.
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• (32:50) – Tropics gone wild: lightning strikes, storms, and a jellyfish coming straight for Kaitlyn.
• (39:30) –Colton shares what it’s like now — married, building a family, and finally living as his authentic self.

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