Nuremberg with Jack El-Hai

BASED ON A TRUE STORY (BOATS EP. 378) — Discover the historical accuracy behind the 2025 film "Nuremberg" which is adapted from Jack El-Hai's book "The Nazi and the Psychiatrist."

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Learn about the real Dr. Douglas Kelley (Rami Malek) and his complex relationship with Hermann Göring (Russell Crowe) during the historic Nuremberg trials. What did the filmmakers get right and what did they change from the true story? Tune in to find out!

Also Mentioned

• Jack El-Hai Official Website
• Nuremberg (2025 Film)
• 22 Cells in Nuremberg by Douglas Kelley
• Howie Trieste's Book on Nuremberg Experiences
• Stars and Stripes Military Newspaper

Chapters

0:00 Intro

2:35 Movie Overview - Nuremberg and Main Characters

5:45 Historical Grade and Book Comparison

9:10 Goering's Capture by Allied Forces

14:20 Douglas Kelly's Role as Psychiatrist

18:55 Goering and Rudolf Hess Relationship

23:45 Goering's Narcissism and Motivations

29:00 Concentration Camp Films and Kelly's Turning Point

33:15 Reporter Character and Kelly's Departure

37:00 Howie Trieste's Story as German-Jewish Translator

41:45 Kelly Handing Over Research to Prosecutors

45:15 Goering's Cyanide Pill and Suicide

48:00 Final Lessons and Democracy Warnings

50:30 Behind-the-Scenes Film Production Story

52:15 Two Truths and a Lie Answer Reveal

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