No More Pretending: Leadership, AI Bias, and the Search for Home

In this engaging conversation, Tom Horne and Tom Schin welcome Kat Kibben, owner of Three Ears Media and author of 'The Bounce Back Factor.' They explore the evolving landscape of recruitment, the impact of AI on hiring practices, and the importance of navigating uncertainty with confidence. Kat shares their insights on leadership, bias in hiring, and the significance of community in fostering effective work environments. The discussion also touches on personal growth through experiences like van life and the essence of finding a place that feels like home. Kat emphasizes that true leadership involves self-awareness and the ability to connect with others, ultimately aiming to create a positive impact in both professional and personal spheres. Our Guest: Katrina Kibben (KAT) is a leadership speaker, author, and the founder of Three Ears Media. They are known for transforming how companies attract great talent and build a healthy team culture. With 15+ years of experience at globally recognized brands like Monster.com and Randstad Worldwide, Katrina shares weekly reflections on leadership, work, and well-being in their newsletter each week at katrinakibben.com. A LinkedIn Top Voice on Hiring featured in The New York Times and Forbes, Katrina is also the author of This Was All An Accident and The Bounce Back Factor, The Leader's Guide To Liking Yourself While Leading Your People. Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katrinakibben/ Web site: https://threeearsmedia.com/ Book: http://thebouncebackfactorbook.com/ Takeaways Leadership is not an autonomous act; it requires community. Failure should not hold as much power as it does. Navigating uncertainty with confidence is essential for a happy life. Defining what 'good' means in hiring can mitigate bias. AI cannot remove bias; it reflects the data it is trained on. The importance of self-awareness in leadership and personal growth. Home is a place where you feel deeply safe. The journey of van life taught valuable lessons about uncertainty. Building connections is crucial in both personal and professional life. The goal of businesses should be to improve lives, not just profits. Keywords recruiting, candidate experience, AI, bias, leadership, uncertainty, personal growth, The Bounce Back Factor, Kat Kibben, Three Ears Media Additional Web Links and references: As always, a BIG thank you to The Break Signals: https://breaksignals.com/home for sharing their musical talents with us. Horne’s Hat: https://www.thelittlemoontravelers.com/ Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 02:11 The World of Recruiting and Candidate Experience 05:01 The Impact of AI on Recruitment 10:03 Navigating Bias in Hiring 14:04 Defining Success in Recruitment 18:02 AI and Bias: A Double-Edged Sword 23:58 Kat's Journey and Book Insights 28:46 Exploring the Concept of Home 37:46 The Bounce Back Factor: Leadership and Community 44:09 Navigating Uncertainty with Confidence