In this conversation, host Lee Stabert is chatting with Amanda LaFleur, executive director of the Nonprofit Organization for Philanthropic Initiatives (NOPI). She discusses life as a boutique fiscal sponsor, the idea of right-sizing an organization, and shares a bit about her experience at the NNFS National Gathering in Phoenix.

This podcast was produced by the National Network of Fiscal Sponsors. If you enjoyed this episode and would like to hear more, please reach out to NNFS and let us know.

In this conversation, host Lee Stabert is chatting with Leah Kral, author of the book Innovation for Social Change: How Wildly Successful Nonprofits Inspire and Deliver Results and a brand new member of the National Network of Fiscal Sponsors. She explains the inspiration behind her book, offers a bunch of illustrative examples of how innovative thinking can change the world, and reflects on why fiscal sponsorship excites her so much.

This podcast was produced by the National Network of Fiscal Sponsors. If you enjoyed this episode and would like to hear more, please reach out to NNFS and let us know.

We're back with another very special episode. On November 4-7, 2025, the National Gathering was held in Chandler, Arizona, outside of Phoenix. Attendees joined host Lee Stabert at a pop-up recording studio to chat about their expectations, their experiences, and their place in this evolving community.

These are the guests, in order of appearance.

Polly Riddims, NNFS

Micah Blumenthal, Good Work Institute

Lauren Chianese, Mazlo

Ema Sol, Future Incubator

Amanda Bennett, Personified Tech

Jill Teigen, Players Philanthropy Fund (PPF)

Jacob Beach, Stara Collaborative

Jericha Senyak, Jericha Senyak Consulting

This podcast was produced by the National Network of Fiscal Sponsors. If you enjoyed this episode — or would like to appear on the show — please reach out to NNFS and let us know.

In this episode, host Lee Stabert chats with Melissa Erickson (The Funding Studio), Kelsey Otten (TAP AZ) and Juan Salas (TAP AZ), members of Arizona’s fiscal sponsorship community. If you haven’t heard — the 2025 National Gathering is headed there in early November. They discuss the field of play in the state, how they’re working to build community, and even share some packing and snacking tips.

This podcast was produced by the National Network of Fiscal Sponsors. If you enjoyed this episode and would like to hear more, please reach out to NNFS and let us know.

And if you’d like more information on the 2025 National Gathering, happening in Phoenix, head to fiscalsponsors.org/events.

In this episode, host Lee Stabert speaks with Elliot Zettas — he recently completed a PhD and focused his dissertation on, you guessed it, fiscal sponsorship. We chat with him about what led him to this area of study, how he conducted his research, and the big-picture conclusions he was able to draw.

HERE is a link to Zettas' work.

This podcast was produced by the National Network of Fiscal Sponsors. If you enjoyed this episode and would like to hear more, please reach out to NNFS and let us know.

And if you’d like more information on the 2025 National Gathering, happening in Phoenix, head to fiscalsponsors.org/events.

In this episode, host Lee Stabert speaks with Carla Dartis of Movement Strategy Center in Oakland, California. In this discussion, they touch on community building, resistance, and keeping the work itself at the center of the organization’s mission.

This podcast was produced by the National Network of Fiscal Sponsors. If you enjoyed this episode and would like to hear more, please reach out to NNFS and let us know.

And if you’d like more information on the 2025 National Gathering, happening in Phoenix, head to fiscalsponsors.org/events.

In this conversation, host Lee Stabert chats with Marc Pollick from The Giving Back Fund. As you’ll hear in this episode, Marc saw a problem — celebrities and athletes with the desire and the influence to give back, and none of the expertise — and came up with a solution. He speaks about helping people give money away, design/build philanthropy, and how funders can meet the moment.

This podcast was produced by the National Network of Fiscal Sponsors. If you enjoyed this episode and would like to hear more, please reach out to NNFS and let us know.

And if you’d like more information on the 2025 National Gathering, happening in Phoenix, head to fiscalsponsors.org/events.

In this episode, host Lee Stabert speaks with Karl Mill from Mill Law Center. An attorney who works with nonprofits and fiscal sponsors, Karl joined us to talk about this particular moment — one that feels incredible precarious for organizations doing community-centric work. What should they be worried about? How can they meet the moment? And why might they need a lawyer?

This podcast was produced by the National Network of Fiscal Sponsors. If you enjoyed this episode and would like to hear more, please reach out to NNFS and let us know.

And if you’d like more information on the 2025 National Gathering, happening in Phoenix, head to fiscalsponsors.org/events.