Episodios

  • (Women and Words) Understanding "Wives Submit" and the Household Codes in 1 Peter 3:1–7 with Dr. Jeannine Brown

    (Women and Words) Understanding "Wives Submit" and the Household Codes in 1 Peter 3:1–7 with Dr. Jeannine Brown
    Aug 15 2025
    In this episode of the Mutuality Matters podcast from CBE International, hosts Mimi and Charel speak with Dr. Jeannine Brown who discusses the pressing need to interpret the Biblical text of 1 Peter 3:1–7 within its first-century Greco-Roman context. Dr. Brown emphasizes the importance of understanding the cultural and historical background behind the passages on submission, particularly 1 Peter 3:1–7. She explores how Peter's household codes provide agency to often marginalized groups like wives and slaves, contrary to the hierarchical norms of the time. The conversation underscores the relevance today of recognizing and respecting context while interpreting Biblical texts—an essential factor for both scholars and modern readers. 00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 00:02 Exploring the Context of Submission in 1 Peter 00:49 Welcome and Introductions 01:33 Reading and Analyzing 1 Peter 3:1-7 02:57 Cultural Background and Interpretation 03:37 Household Codes in the Greco-Roman World 07:24 Missional Moments and Divided Households 08:20 Challenges for Christian Wives in the First Century 10:03 Slavery and Moral Agency in 1 Peter 11:28 Understanding Peter's Use of Household Codes 16:50 Modern Interpretations and Misconceptions 27:46 The Role of Headings in Biblical Interpretation 30:15 Instructions for Husbands in 1 Peter 3:7 36:30 Exploring Social and Physical Vulnerability 37:19 Interpreting 'Weaker Vessel' in Context 38:02 Challenging Traditional Views on Gender Roles 40:18 Co-Heirs and Inheritance in Early Christianity 41:50 Family Metaphors in 1 Peter 43:37 Egalitarian Impulses in the New Testament 45:28 Household Codes and Their Implications 50:08 Suffering for Good and Loyalty to Jesus 52:47 Translation Challenges and Responsibilities 58:01 Applying 1 Peter in Modern Contexts 01:04:03 Conclusion and Further Resources Guest Bio: Dr. Jeannine Brown Jeannine Brown is professor of New Testament at Bethel Seminary and Program Director of Bethel Seminary’s Online programs. Jeannine received in MA from Bethel Seminary, Saint Paul, MN. and her PhD from Luther seminary, Saint Paul, MN. Dr. Brown has taught at Bethel Seminary for over 20 years. She teaches in the areas of New Testament, Greek, hermeneutics, and integration. Dr. Brown has focused much of her research and writing on the Gospels, hermeneutics, and interdisciplinary integration. In addition to a book on biblical hermeneutics (Scripture as Communication, now in second edition) and two books on integration, she has published three commentaries on Matthew's Gospel and one on Philippians (Tyndale NT series). She is a member of the NIV translation team and is an editor for the NIV Study Bible, revised edition (2020). Her current writing projects include a commentary 1 Peter (NICNT) and book on themes in 1 Peter. Jeannine’s other published works include: Scripture as Communication (2021, 2007); The Gospels as Stories (2020); Relational Integration of Psychology and Christian Theology (2018); Becoming Whole and Holy: An Integrative Conversation about Christian Formation (2011); Embedded Genres in the New Testament: Understanding Their Impact for Interpretation and three commentaries on the Gospel of Matthew (2018, 2015, 2012). Jeannine Brown co-edited the second edition of Jesus and the Gospels (2013). She has published numerous journal articles and book essays on the Gospels of Matthew and John, 1 Peter, and topics of hermeneutics. Some of these have been published in Journal of Biblical Literature, New Testament Studies, Catholic Biblical Quarterly, and Horizons in Biblical Theology. Jeannine thoroughly enjoys teaching in churches and ministries on the topics of Bible interpretation and the New Testament. She is married to Tim Brown, singer-songwriter, and has two adult daughters. Story Notes Today’s podcast focused on 1 Pet 3:1–7. In the NIV it reads: "Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes. Rather, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight. For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to adorn themselves. They submitted themselves to their own husbands, like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her lord. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear. Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will ...
    Más Menos
    1 h y 9 m
  • (Women and Words) The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 5

    (Women and Words) The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 5
    Jul 31 2025
    In episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by Mimi Haddad and produced by CBE International, guest Mayra Ugalde addresses the importance of women's leadership and service in the church, as guided by biblical teachings. She emphasizes the necessity of obedience to Jesus over cultural obstacles and discusses the significance of both Old and New Testament scriptures in supporting women’s roles in ministry. The episode also explores the impact of failed interpretations and translation errors on women's roles in religious contexts. Additionally, it underscores the importance of personal biblical study and the need for Bible translations accessible to all languages and cultures. The conversation encourages women to fulfill their God-given purpose without fear of societal judgment. 00:00 Introduction and Opening Remarks 00:23 Encouragement for Women in Ministry 00:56 Challenges in Biblical Interpretation 03:24 Biblical Support for Women's Leadership 03:49 The Importance of Service and Obedience 08:29 Recommendations for Bible Translations 11:53 Women in Scripture and Mission 12:31 Transformation Through Biblical Teachings 22:39 Concluding Thoughts and Farewell

    Related Resources

    Women and Words: From Oppression to Empowerment with Mayra Ugalde: Part 1 Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 2 Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 3 Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 4 The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

    Más Menos
    29 m
  • (Women in Scripture and Mission) The East African Revival Moment with Bishop Emily Onyango

    (Women in Scripture and Mission) The East African Revival Moment with Bishop Emily Onyango
    Jul 17 2025

    In this episode, Kim talks to Rt. Rev. Dr. Emily Onyango about the East Africa Revival Movement that began in 1927 and is still reverberating through East Africa today. Begun by two people praying for true faith in the Anglican church, the movement grew among laypeople to denominations across East Africa, challenging patriarchy, tribalism, and racism. Because one priest oversaw six or seven churches, women empowered by the spirit preached, shared their testimonies and lead their churches. They dressed in white to mark their new way of living, and today a few of these very elderly women still challenge and influence church leadership today. At the time of the revival, Kenya’s practice of polygamy was at an all-time high, yet these believers lived monogamous, egalitarian marriages. They sent their daughters to school in addition to their sons, and the changed the fabric of society. Today, the leaders against government corruption and tribal sectarianism have their roots in the East Africa Revival Movement. Guest Bio  Right Rev. Dr. Emily Onyango is the first woman in the history of the Anglican Church in Kenya to be elected as bishop. She serves as senior lecturer and dean of students at St. Paul’s University in Limuru, Kenya. She earned a PhD from the University of Wales, as well as a Master of Theology from the Asian Center for Theological Studies and Mission in Seoul, South Korea, and a bachelor's degree from St. Paul’s University, Limuru. She is the author of Gender and Development: A History of Women’s Education in Kenya. CBE Resources: Women's History Month: The African Face of Global Evangelicalism by Mimi Haddad https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/womens-history-month-the-african-face-of-global-evangelicalism/ by Emily Onyango: Read: The Negative Consequences of Dowry Payment on Women and Society https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/negative-consequences-dowry-payment-women-and-society/

    Watch: Working Towards Mutuality as a Mark of Christian Identity: A Case of the Work of the African Church for Biblical Equality https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/working-towards-mutuality-mark-christian-identity-case-work-african-church/

    Listen: The Challenge of Gender Based Violence in Kenya and the Response of the Church https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/challenge-gender-based-violence-kenya-and-response-church/

    The Challenge of the Resurgence of Negative Aspects of African Cultural Practices Among Christians in Kenya https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/challenge-resurgence-negative-aspects-african-cultural-practices-among/

    Global Impact: The Work of Service Not Power in the Anglican Church of Kenya with Rt Rev Dr Emily Onyango https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/global-impact-work-service-not-power-anglican-church-kenya-rt-rev-dr-emily-onyango/

    Disclaimer : The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.
    Más Menos
    42 m
  • (Women and Words) The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 4

    (Women and Words) The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 4
    Jun 13 2025

    This episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by CBE International, interviews Mayra Ugalde who delves into the significant role women played in Paul's ministry and offers insights into commonly misunderstood biblical passages used to limit women's roles in church and society. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the cultural context of scripture, the equality in Christ beyond gender, and the mutual submission in Christian marriage. Various translations of key texts like Ephesians 5 and Genesis 3:16 are compared to highlight biases and interpretations. The episode concludes with a call to read the Bible holistically to grasp its true message of equality and mutuality in Christ.

    Timestamps

    00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters

    00:35 The Importance of Bible Translations

    02:53 Women in the Bible: Lessons from Mark

    03:54 Jesus' Acceptance of Women's Offerings

    08:01 Encouragement for Women in Ministry

    09:38 Women as Witnesses and Apostles

    15:40 Addressing Difficult Bible Passages

    24:46 Equality in Christ

    25:37 Phoebe and Women Leaders in the Early Church

    28:42 Biblical Texts on Marriage and Mutual Submission

    39:36 Interpreting Genesis 3:16

    43:17 The Role of Sin and Grace in the Bible

    46:21 The Church as a Demonstration of God's Kingdom

    48:35 Conclusion and Call to Action

    Related Resources

    Women and Words: From Oppression to Empowerment with Mayra Ugalde: Part 1 https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/women-and-words-from-oppression-to-empowerment-women-in-scripture/

    Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 2

    https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/women-and-words-the-intersection-of-culture-and-bible-translation/ Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 3

    https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/women-and-words-the-intersection-of-culture-and-bible-translation-part-3/

    Disclaimer: The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.
    Más Menos
    49 m
  • (Women in Scripture and History) The Women of Exodus with Dr. Carmen Joy Imes

    (Women in Scripture and History) The Women of Exodus with Dr. Carmen Joy Imes
    May 9 2025
    In this episode, Kim talks to Dr. Carmen Joy Imes about the women of Exodus. Dr. Imes brings her deep knowledge of Exodus to the average Christian audience, explaining how the structure and literary parallels of Exodus to show how the women are the rescuers of Moses, who then rescues the Hebrews. She provides the details of the midwives’ spiritual work of saving lives. She demonstrates how Pharaoh’s daughter displayed God’s character as she sees Moses’ misery, heard his cry, and took pity on him. She explains the Hebrew that illustrates how Miriam took a stand at the river to address Pharaoh’s daughter just as Moses later took a stand to address Pharaoh. And she explains how Zipporah literally saved Moses’ life as he decided which people group he belonged. Amidst these detailed portrayals of the Exodus women, Dr. Imes also points out the narrator’s use of humor to depict the bumbling and nameless Pharaoh. 00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 00:02 Exploring the Role of Zipporah in Exodus 01:04 Meet Dr. Carmen Joy IMEs 02:06 The Mystery of Exodus 4:24-25 03:26 Theological and Structural Significance of Zipporah 14:33 The Role of Women in the Early Chapters of Exodus 21:49 Elevating Women in Scripture 22:00 A Word from CBE 22:37 The Women of Exodus: Zipporah, Pua, and Shiphrah 22:52 The Story of Moses' Birth and the Women Who Saved Him 32:07 Moses' Identity and His Encounter with God 39:37 Closing Thoughts and Resources 41:20 Final Remarks and How to Stay Connected   Guest Bio  Dr. Carmen Joy Imes is associate professor of Old Testament at Talbot School of Theology, Biola University, in Southern California. She is the author of Bearing God's Name: Why Sinai Still Matters, Being God's Image: Why Creation Still Matters, and the forthcoming Becoming God's Family: Why the Church Still Matters. Carmen has a YouTube channel where she releases weekly Torah Tuesday videos and you can find her writing on various websites, including Christianity Today, The Well, and The Politics of Scripture blog. Carmen is passionate about equipping the church to engage the Old Testament well and to see its relevance for the Christian life. Find Dr. Carmen Imes at: X: @carmenjoyimes Bluesky: @carmenjoyimes.bsky.social YouTube – Torah Tuesday: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6bwfe08fufzGaY2YImWQK12Ye7VX15X2 Resources Mentioned in the Interview: Becoming God's Family: Why the Church Still Matters Being God's Image: Why Creation Still Matters Bearing God's Name: Why Sinai Still Matters Every Woman’s Bible published by Tyndale Other CBE Resources: Defiant: What the Women of Exodus Teach Us About Freedom by Kelley Nikondeha. “Rational and Emotional Faith” by Megan Greulich in Mutuality “Who’s Who? Biblical Models of Women in Leadership” by Gracy Ying May in Priscilla Papers “Black is Blessed: A Study of Black/African Women and Men in Scripture” by Catherine Clark Kroeger in Priscilla Papers “Defiant: What the Women of Exodus Teach us about Freedom” by Mary Lou Wiley a Book Review on Defiant Women in Scripture and Mission: Zipporah by Kimberly Dickson Women in Scripture and Mission: Miriam by Kimberly Dickson Women in Scritpure and History: Puah and Shiphrah by Kimberly Dickson Disclaimer  The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 
    Más Menos
    44 m
  • (Women and Words) Which Bible Translation Is Best in Latin America? with Mayra Ugalde: Part 3

    (Women and Words) Which Bible Translation Is Best in Latin America? with Mayra Ugalde: Part 3
    May 2 2025

    In this episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by CBE International, the focus is on the significance of Bible translation and its impact on women's lives worldwide, especially in Latin America. Special guest Maya Ugalde, honorary director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica, shares her extensive experience in Bible publishing and distribution. The discussion covers the importance of diverse translation teams, avoiding biases, and the role of traditional translations in fostering a deeper connection with God.

    00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters

    01:19 Welcoming Our Esteemed Guest: Maya

    02:48 The Importance of Diverse Translation Teams

    05:49 Overcoming Bias in Bible Translations

    10:38 Successful Bible Translations: A Global Perspective

    16:42 The Role of Traditional Language in Bible Reading

    28:46 The Spirit in the Text: Engaging with God's Word

    31:00 Critical Thinking in Bible Translations

    35:37 Conclusion and Future Discussions

    Guest Bio

    Mayra currently serves as Honorary Director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica, where she serves in different areas of the publishing, promoting, and distribution of the Bible all over Costa Rica for more of 43 years. Mayra also serves on the Publishing Committee for the United Bible Society where she participates in developing and publishing different study Bibles and specifically in the developing of the Bible for Latin American women that’s called The Women in the Bible and also a Bible for adult women that was called The Bible I Adore.

    Mayra has an MBA in Administration, and a postgraduate degree in Bible. She publishes articles in national newspapers and nowadays writes devotionals and blogs leading readers to interact with the Bible.

    Related Resources

    Women and Words: From Oppression to Empowerment with Mayra Ugalde: Part 1

    Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 2

    How American Evangelicalism Has Been Weaponized Against Women

    IJM’s Fight Against Gender-Based Violence in Latin America with Brad Twedt

    Disclaimer

    The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

    Más Menos
    37 m
  • (Women in Scripture and History) Who was Mary Magdalene really? with Rev. Dr. Jennifer Powell McNutt

    (Women in Scripture and History) Who was Mary Magdalene really? with Rev. Dr. Jennifer Powell McNutt
    Apr 17 2025
    In this episode, Kim talks to Rev Dr. Jennifer Powell McNutt about Mary Magdalene. She discusses the Biblical witness of Mary Magdalene, and what happened historically to Mary so that she came to be understood as a prostitute. She also discusses the meaning of Apostle and why the Eastern and Western churches remember Mary Magdalene as an apostle to the apostles. Bio  Rev. Dr. Jennifer Powell McNutt is the Franklin S. Dyrness professor of Biblical and Theological Studies at Wheaton College. She is an award-winning author, fellow in the Royal Historical Society, and ordained teaching elder in the Presbyterian church. Her latest books are Know the Theologians (Zondervan, 2024), a finalist in the 2024 CT Book Awards for Popular Theology, and The Mary We Forgot (Brazos, 2024). She and her husband co-founded McNuttshell Ministries that seeks to serve as a bridge between the church and academy. Find Rev, Dr Jennifer McNutt Substack: The McNuttshell https://substack.com/@jenniferpowellmcnutt  Contact: https://jenniferpowellmcnutt.com McNuttshell Ministries: https://mcnuttshellministries.com Scripture References Woman identified as “Sinner Woman” that gets conflated with Mary Magdalene: Luke 7 Highlighting women with Jesus, part of his ministry, traveling with Jesus: Luke Chapter 8:1-3 Scriptural definition of Apostles: 1 Cor 15, 1 John 1, Mary’s Message and Being Sent: John 20, Matthew 28, Luke 23-24, Acts 1 Other Resources Mentioned in Interview: Scholars who have investigated Roman system of patronage: Lynn Cohick, Amy Brown Hughs, Susan Highland CBE Resources: Book Review of Jennifer Powell McNutt’s, The Mary We Forgot: What the Apostle to the Apostle Teaches the Church Today by Kimberly Dickson Women in Scripture and History: Mary Magdalene by Kimberly Dickson To learn about the Middle Eastern culture and its impact on the movements of men versus women and children, see: “God’s Word to Middle Eastern Women,” by Kevin Zabihi in Mutuality, October 20, 2021. “Christ is Risen: The Nonsense of a Hysterical Woman,” by Chesna Hinkley in Mutuality April 15, 2020. “Frequently Asked Questions about Mary Magdalene,” by Lidija Novakovic in Prisicilla Papers, June 5, 2006. Disclaimer  The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 
    Más Menos
    38 m
  • (Women and Words) The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 2

    (Women and Words) The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 2
    Apr 4 2025

    This episode of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by CBE International, features an in-depth discussion with Mayra Ugalde, the Honorary Director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica. Mayra shares her perspective on growing up in a Latin family with traditional gender roles and delves into the complexities of Bible translation. She emphasizes the importance of diverse translation teams to avoid bias and promote a holistic understanding of Scripture. The episode also touches on the historical and cultural contexts in biblical narratives and highlights the significant roles women have played in both the Old and New Testaments. Through shared expertise, listeners are encouraged to engage with the Bible personally and critically, guided by the Holy Spirit and informed by a community of believers.

    00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters

    01:29 Welcome and Guest Introduction

    03:05 Complexities of Bible Translation

    05:42 Diverse Perspectives in Translation

    11:22 The Role of Commentaries in Bible Reading

    14:38 Women and the Bible: Cultural Contexts

    20:29 Women Leaders in Christianity

    30:00 Boaz and Ruth: A Cultural Example

    35:16 Conclusion and Future Episodes

    Guest Bio

    Mayra currently serves as Honorary Director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica, where she serves in different areas of the publishing, promoting, and distribution of the Bible all over Costa Rica for more of 43 years. Mayra also serves on the Publishing Committee for the United Bible Society where she participates in developing and publishing different study Bibles and specifically in the developing of the Bible for Latin American women that’s called The Women in the Bible and also a Bible for adult women that was called The Bible I Adore.

    Mayra has an MBA in Administration, and a postgraduate degree in Bible. She publishes articles in national newspapers and nowadays writes devotionals and blogs leading readers to interact with the Bible.

    Related Resources

    Women and Words: From Oppression to Empowerment with Mayra Ugalde: Part 1

    How American Evangelicalism Has Been Weaponized Against Women

    IJM’s Fight Against Gender-Based Violence in Latin America with Brad Twedt

    Disclaimer

    The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

    Más Menos
    37 m