We welcome Spotted Peccary recording artists and collaborators David Helpling and Eric “the” Taylor to the podcast, along with photographer, creator and teacher David Behringer to talk about the amazing macro-photography and video he contributed to their latest release, The Precious Dark.

We dive deep into David Behringer’s macro-photography approach on the streets of Nagoya, Japan, and geek-out over how the visual and musical aspects of projects impact one another. We also tangent to talk about the love/hate we have for AI, Behringer’s Instagram stardom, and the time Helpling and Taylor spent in the studio creating their recent record.

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00:00 – Intro / VO

01:41 – The Setup | SPM / “Music Is Art” and why the visuals matter

04:39 – The Precious Dark: concept and visuals

09:09 – David Behringer’s photography background and the macro approach

16:00 – The photos as a “Deep Viewing” experience vs music as “Deep Listening” experience

19:00 – The “Produced Entirely by Humans” ethos

23:17 – The “AI factor”

25:11 – The Listening Party experience

30:05 – The Dark Sky Alliance connection

31:15 – Working together in Deep Exile

36:12 – Differing opinions / unique perspectives / learning from each other

37:29 – How it started vs how it’s going

41:27 – “Your images look like my music” – better call mom.

42:47 – “The Precious Dark” video: telling the story thru David Behringer’s lens

48:50 – Gratitude for new eyes and ears / leaving a legacy

51:40 – The “Instagram factor” – David Behringer blew up my phone

53:07 – The music and visuals are forever connected through love

56:35 – Immersion colors mindsets, neon synthwave and getting lost in the “atmosphere”

01:03:28 – Studio session twister, cussing and “chasing the truth”

01:05:29 – Collective creative spirit and our precious time

01:07:16 – Bi-coastal / global / dimensional time travel via small magical moments

01:11:45 – Feeling the air move and experiencing the music with your whole self

01:13:52 – Favorite track picks: David Helpling – We Rise In A Harmonious System (excerpt)

01:16:16 – Favorite track picks: Eric “the” Taylor – The Ice Has Dreams (excerpt)

01:18:24 – Favorite track picks: David Behringer – The Precious Dark (excerpt)

01:22:23 – The Digital Booklet

01:26:27 – What’s next? More music? Interviews?

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As our Tucson residency comes to a close, we reflect on our time in the desert with a new-found appreciation for the deeply profound lessons the landscape can teach us about our place within it. We were struck by the “slow time” rules that desert growth seems to be governed by – the way its incredible vibrancy appears to operate in near silent suspension.

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Continuous Mix:

00:00 – Intro / Desert Walk-and-Talk

03:25– Michael Stearns & Ron Sunsinger | Sendero | Sorcerer

05:51 – Rudy Adrian | Desert Realms | Desert Realms

13:33 – Betrand Nadel | For Strength & Vision, Part II * Vision | Mohave

17:36 – Deborah Martin | Gray Sky | Under the Moon (Special Remastered Edition)

22:49 – Steve Gordon & Deborah Martin | Heart of Fire | Ancient Power

27:27 – Frore & Shane Morris | Calling Down the Sun | Eclipse

36:02 – Terra Ambient | Sandstorm Dreaming | The Gate

44:46 – Deborah Martin | The Strength of Stones | Deep Roots, Hidden Water (Remastered)

49:23 – Dean De Benedictis | Blue Mesa | Salvaging the Present

55:52 – Byron Metcalf & Mark Seelig with Steve Roach | Deep Time Dreaming | Wachuma’s Wave

1:06:17 – Frore, Shane Morris | Lost in Wonder | Horizon

1:15:01 – Massergy | El Viajero | Fire Opal

1:20:05 – John Gregorius | Wonder | In Awe

1:24:37 – Erik Wøllo | Sedona | Blue Sky, Red Guitars

1:30:10 – Deborah Martin & Erik Wollo | Between Worlds | Between Worlds

1:35:32 – Darshan Ambient | Waiting On A Dead Man’s Horse | Dream In Blue

1:40:58 – Jeff Greinke | Falling Sky | Other Weather

1:46:02 – David Helpling & Jon Jenkins | The Same Sky | The Crossing

1:51:40 – Dark Sky Alliance | The Desert Mind | Interdwell

1:57:02 – Jon Jenkins | Zzyzx Road | Beyond City Light

2:03:44 – Rudy Adrian | Saguaro Silhouette | Desert Realms

2:11:00 – Brain Laughter | The Other Side (Of Night) | In The Land of Power

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We mark the one year anniversary of the release of Kinishba, the ongoing collaboration from Deborah Martin & Erik Wøllo, that celebrates the cultures, traditions and lives of the Apache people of the American Southwest.

Hear the artists themselves describe the creative process and inspiration behind their “musical archeology” project that involved Apache tribal members and deep storytelling.

Along with more recent music from Kinishba, we’ll also hear music from their earlier collaboration, Between Worlds.

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00:00 – Intro / VO

02:26 – Deborah & Erik | Discovering Kinishba: Project origins / Between Worlds

–04:00 – Distant Voices | Between Worlds

09:07 – Ancestral Whispers | Between Worlds

14:03 – Canyonland | Between Worlds

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18:57 – Track ID / VO

19:17 – Deborah & Erik | Discovering Kinishba: Further exploration

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21:07 – Prayer Song | Kinishba

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24:49 – VO: Vocal Additions from Deborah Martin

25:26 – Deborah & Erik | Discovering Kinishba: Adding vocals on Kinishba

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27:58 – Creation Story | Kinishba

33:07 – Voices of Nature | Kinishba

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36:38 – Track ID / VO

36:48 – Deborah & Erik | Discovering Kinishba: Telling the story of time and place

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41:30 – Burial Ground | Kinishba

46:54 – Fort Apache Meadowlarks | Kinishba

52:17 – Life Spiral | Kinishba

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55:37 – Track ID / VO

57:06 – Deborah & Erik | Discovering Kinishba: Collaborating to honor a people and their stories

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